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notsolost42
04-06-2009, 03:40 PM
I believe I have found who and what the four toed statue is. Believe it or not it is Juliet and here's why.

Juliet is the reincarnated Goddess Bast. Bast was the Egyptian goddess of fertility, medicine, and health. She was depicted as a woman with a cat head. Bast was the daughter or wife of Ra, the sun god, or as we like to call him, Richard Alpert. Here are a couple of pictures to look at. Notice the ears of Bast are like the ears on the four toed statue. Cat ears, pointy. Also notice that one of the pictures shows four toes on the feet. Yikes! Now, the four toed statue takes a little poetic license with the statue, of course, but it does have a great deal of similarity. And Juliet fits it purrrfectly!

rochnative
04-06-2009, 03:46 PM
Could be. There are two alternate mythical figure which I think the statue might be, but this is a new one and it kinda makes sense. The other two are the Anubis which was a human with a wolves head. He was responsible for the judgement of the dead and the passageway to the underworld. The other could be a human body with a hippo's head (cannot recall what he is known as) who was symbolic of fertility. Bast is certainly a viable option. It will be interesting to find out who/what it is actually of as opposed to all of our speculation.

notsolost42
04-06-2009, 03:50 PM
Could be. There are two alternate mythical figure which I think the statue might be, but this is a new one and it kinda makes sense. The other two are the Anubis which was a human with a wolves head. He was responsible for the judgement of the dead and the passageway to the underworld. The other could be a human body with a hippo's head (cannot recall what he is known as) who was symbolic of fertility. Bast is certainly a viable option. It will be interesting to find out who/what it is actually of as opposed to all of our speculation.

I totally agreed that it was Anubis before I found this. And I never heard of one with a hippo head being the goddess of fertility, because Bast is the goddess of fertility. That's why I started to look for some photos. The four toed statue does have a feminine quality to it. The waist is narrow and the long hair. Long hair like Juliet...

rochnative
04-06-2009, 07:10 PM
You are right with about the about the feminie quality to the statue. The only real differences I see are that the 4 toed statue has a shorter skirt than that of Bast and the statue appears to be holding something in its right hand (I think it is an ank or Egyptian symbol for eternal life).

notsolost42
04-06-2009, 07:23 PM
You are right with about the about the feminie quality to the statue. The only real differences I see are that the 4 toed statue has a shorter skirt than that of Bast and the statue appears to be holding something in its right hand (I think it is an ank or Egyptian symbol for eternal life).

I found lots of different photos of Bast. She was interpreted differently by each artist. But the basics remain, a cat head and a female body. That statue I found seemed to have four toes. I can't trust my eyes though because it is so small, but is that what you count also? Bast does have different symbols in her hands in various pictures. Usually and ankh and something else. I think the hair on our four toed statue is long like Juliet's! And those pointy ears are definitly cat like. Get this, Bast has a twin sister named Sekhmet. She is the Warrior Goddess. I think she could be Kate!

Trumby
04-06-2009, 07:31 PM
This is the other goddess mentioned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawaret

notsolost42
04-06-2009, 07:47 PM
This is the other goddess mentioned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawaret

I got it, the hippo head one. Okay, thanks.

Chelebella
04-06-2009, 09:18 PM
I like it! It supports my theory that Juliet and Richard might be a couple, or at least working together.

Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
04-11-2009, 05:49 PM
NotSo! How cool is THAT! I immediately thought it looked like Juliet from behind! Now I see you also did, but put a lot more thought into it! Crazy, isn't it?! and "R"ichard "A"lpert=RA ... whoa! LOL
Freaky!

headscratch
04-12-2009, 02:37 AM
The tall statue seems to have a bulge extending from the statue's rear traveling up the middle of it's back. On the left of his back/right shoulder appears to be a lock of hair with an arrow on the end. I do not think this is hair. I think that is a tail. And if you look at the hair of the head, it seems to be flat across the top. This is similar to a Hanuman monkey, sacred monkeys in India that many believe are the spirtis of the dead. The statue is on the left side of the island which is presumably West towards the setting sun. The statue appears to be holding Ankhs in both hands. The ankh predates Egypt and is also present in the hindu religion and mythology.

I think the statue is of Hanuman, the monkey deity renowned for his courage, power and faithful, selfless service. He was cellibate with no children. He was all powerful and cunning. He is all powerful and humble at the same time. Hanuman forgets his power and needd to be reminded of it

When Hanuman was a child he was very naughty because of his power. Once he thought the sun was a ripe fruit and tried to jump up and catch it. He jumped so high he nearly got burned, but the Sun was impressed and gave Hanuman the gift of immortality as a reward for his courage and cleverness...the ankhs? Later, some gods feared this and took away his memory so he would not remember how powerful he was and would only learn from men when it was necessary. Hanuman and take other forms too and become colossal and was probably much taller than man is today. Maybe forms of the dead - Christian, Alex, etc.?

In mythological beliefs, the ankh appeared at the end of the third race of Lemuria and the beginning of the Fourth race - Atlantis. The ankh represents both male and female and the beginning of birth. During the Fourth Race is when Man and Woman were formed and the ankh mimics the beginning of man and the tree of life as well. Atlantis is believed to have had amazing electromagnetism which some in mythologists say was used to fly and build things moving heacy objects wiht a finger. The people were very, very tall and some say that those who left Atlantis went on to occupy Egypt, India and South/Central America, Greece, etc. and believe the pyramids may have been built with this electromagnetism.

As has been discussed on this forum, the real Richard Alpert became Ram Das who studied under baba somebody - the maharishi - who many believed was the manifestation of Humanen. Ram Das created something called the Humanen Foundation. Richard Alpert was the Harvard professor who studied LSD and other drugs before leaving adacamia to study ubder guru Baba. Hunaman could take on different forms and has eternal life. A member suggested Ricahrd Alpert is a manifestation of Hunaman. Could be. Has no woman ever, no children, needed Locke to remind him about the compass thing. Could be the collosal thing that roared in Season 1. The wind. The smoke monster. The stature could be Alpert? Alpert could be Hanuman. The statue could be a homage by Hanuman to the Sun God.

If the statue is facing west looking to the setting sun that gave Hanuman eternnal life, then when the sun is in the east, it is covered by the mountains of the island and the shadow cannot fall upon it. Thus when the shadow falls, it will be when the sun is in the west and it will fall onto the well!

When Locke falls into the well, the light comes from below. This is the source of the energy and light and the magnetism and that which is in the shadow of the statue.


A battle ensues between Ravana's demon army and Rama's animal army. (The subject of many paintings.) Lakshman is so badly wounded in the battle it seems that he will die before sunrise. (In some versions of the story many Monkeys and Bears are wounded too.) It says Humanan got to the sea which was all blue waters. He came with Monkeys and Bears who decided that Hanuman must LEAP to the Himalayas and bring back the healing herb from the Medicine Mountain to save Lakshman's life. So Hanuman leaps over the ocean, and across the whole of India, to the Himalayas. When he arrives at first he can't find the Medicine Mountain. When he finds it at last, it is covered with herbs and he doesn't know which is the magic healing herb. So Hanuman wraps his arms around the whole mountain, pulls it out of the ground, lifts it up onto the palm of his hand and flies with it back to Lanka. (Hanuman carrying the mountain is reproduced again and again in all forms of art.) On the way the sun begins to rise and Hanuman captures it under his arm so that he can arrive back before sunrise in time to save Lakshman. The healing herb is picked and given to Lakshman. Lakshman is healed and filled with energy. (Or the whole animal army is renewed.) So Hanuman both moved mountains and so could move an island, and traveled through time. Is this herb that is used to heal Ben?

When Atlanits was once a continent, it shrunk during the third Race of man. Prior to that it encompassed near all of the present day continents. Towards the end of the shrinking came the island of Poseiden which Plato wrote about and where male and female came into being during the fourth race when we moved from god - human and human - animal forms to all man and woman in the fifth race. The changes also seem to conincide with ill acts of the races which ultimately lead to teh great destructions.

I know I am jumping around her a bit, but I think this all fits. The Valenzetti equation may be the equation of when the end of the Fifth race which is we are now. We evolved after the end of the Fourth Race with the Great Flood and they and perhaps the fight is to try to extend this Race of Man - the Fifth. Each race of man is nearly destroyed by a catastrophe and has to do with flood/earthquake, continents destroyed or created cycles. Since the last was flood, the next will be another inner earth issue - earthquakes and colcanoes There are eight spokes on the wheel of life and so far we have gone through four great events which are caused by changes the magnetic fields and poles of the earth. (are there eight spokes on the wheel that gets truned?)

I have had trouble figuring out who is bad and who is good. Hanuman worked as a balace between the two. Evil cannot exist without good. And vice versa. If one side dies the other side does too.

So what lies in the shadow is that source of energy which allows you to transverse time. I think the ability to tranvese time requires one to overcome the speed of light problem. Since light and time continues in a straight line, in order to move forward or back in time, you must bend the light so that the past and present can become located next to one another on the bends.... and then one only has that distance (which would be less distance than on the straight line) and you could transvers time in less time than the speed of light (beat the speed of light problem). The light can be bent with the magnetism and you can move from present to past and to future and back again thorugh triangulations that require less time to move between these points than the speed of light. I think this is where the the idea of a skipping record comes in and where you jump back and forth between past and present and may explain some differences and problems with timelines. You need a constant to know where you dervice from as your movement is a derivitive (perhaps the jacobian formula matrix). Jacobi the mathemitician worked with magnetixm and derivitive matrices. Does anyone know if each jump in time during the skipping record when forward and back and then forward and back, etc?

The Valenzetti equation determines the next great event and the end of this race of man and the movement into the next. The current experiment hs to do with extending the time before the next great event and that event was caused by something man did. Someone from the future needs to get the help of Hanuman who is also slated to be the next Manu (First man) of the next Race of man.

It is the forgetfulness of Alpert which leads him to need someone to follow. The people he relies on become drunk with desire for eternal life and seek to obtain mortality rather than what is needed for this race of man.

Okay..whatever.

notsolost42
04-12-2009, 03:10 AM
Your theory is interesting. I don't think you have quite all of your facts about Richard Albert correct though. He was Baba Ram Dass. Yes, he studied under a yogi. So did we all that were serious students of yoga. And, I am not real sure what you are talking about as far as the ankh and Atlantis. Atlantis is myth and the ankh is seen in much egyptian art. I don't understand what you are saying. And most importantly, the statue has no tail. None. At all. None.

mcgarnigle
04-12-2009, 07:29 PM
I think guy is tying in all theories of the continent of mu(beginnings of man) and how that all relates to the obvious egyptian/greek mythologies that have intertwined with the story of lost. I like the idea about the jacobian mathematics, b/c as we know the universal language is math. anything else is all open to interpretation at this point.

Is anyone else counting down the final 22 episodes left?

headscratch
04-13-2009, 06:17 PM
McGarnable - yes...but I think they are saying that the Seven Races of Man myths is where all of these came from originally. We were once Gods and evolved to man. We are now ata crossroads of the fifth race of man and some want us to ewvolve and others want us to stay in the fifth race. Ultimately they want eternal life and so perhaps are trying to skip the sixth race altogethr and go right tothe seventh which the mythologists say will result in us returning to being Gods.

Okay – Richard Alpert was a Baba, but he followed the Mahariji, another Baba, who was believe to be an incarnate of Hanuman. This brings us to the number 108. The Hindus, Taoists and Buddhists all use 108 beads. When the clock hit 108, hieroglyphic symbols come up, the first obviously being a bird. IT was a bird who dropped some food and impregnated the mother of Hanuman and begot Hanuman. I do not know what the other symbols are. There is also some mythology that the monkeys that followed Hanuman used these beads.

As to Atlantis:. Those mythologists who speak of Atlantis believe in the Seven Races of Man. Up until Atlantis there were only Gods and Demigods as in Egyptian, Hindu and other religions. These religions believe that God or Gods made man and woman and until then, beings were androgynous. The statue appears to have manly shoulders and I think looks androgynous. Thos who believe in Atlantis believe that during Atlantis Man and woman evolved from androgynous beings. The ankh is an inherent male and female symbol that is a sign for life or alternatively eternal life. Originally, the producers wanted six toes which some believe we evolved from. They opted for four, either way showing this is not a human. They also believe that all of the major races of today’s man including Hindus, Egyptians and the Mayans evolved from Atlantis and I believe what we see in the statue predates those cultures. I do believe this is a statue of Hanuman and Alpert is a form that Hanuman took. Also, remember that Hanuman could travel all over the world and was omnipotent but had memory issues.

Back to the Jacobian matrix. Here look to the developer whose name is Carl Gustav Jacob Jacobi, an enlightened Prussian mathematician who worked on both magnetism and electricity. He developed the Jacobian Matrix later integrated into the Kerr equation which we saw on Miles formulas. The Kerr equation and the Jacobian matrix are utilized by present day theorists who say we can travel in time. Very interesting about Jacobi is this:
Jacobi wrote the classic treatise (1829) on elliptic functions, of great importance in mathematical physics, because of the need to "integrate second order kinetic energy equations". The motion equations in rotational form are integrable only for the three cases of the pendulum, the symmetric top in a gravitational field, and a freely spinning body, wherein solutions are in terms of elliptic functions. See Jacobi's elliptic functions. Sounds like the lamppost.

I think things gel with the Atlantean Seven Races of Man theories. Also interesting is that John Locke used the name Jeremy Bentham who was a Jacobian. All three of these guys were involved in politics during the age of Enlightenment which happened around the time of the Black Rock too. Locke spoke to unalienable rights derived or given by God. The Seven races theory asserts we evolved from Gods and will one day return to Gods.
The Dharma initiative and these fellows all were trying to create a utopian like society which is what the seven races theory seems to suggest is the next age of man.

Richard Alpert was thrown out of Harvard and the writers are both from Harvard which is also interesting.

I do not think we should get hung up on any one religion as the show seems to be focusing on things common to all religions and uses religions to show the commonalities.

As for the polar bears. It is important to note that the mythologists who believe in the severn races believe that each race was effected by the great catastrophes, either outside of earth – magnetic pole switches - and inner earth – earthquakes and volcanoes. They take turns with the last being the great flood and so the next would be by geological changes - note the volcano on the island, jughead and the immense energy source which could be where such a place could occur. Tunesia is near the equator. So if there was a pole switch form present day poles to along the equator, that would explain a polar bear skeleton in the dessert and also suggest that some of the bears of Hanuman could have been polar bears. A thought.
Any thoughts?

headscratch
04-13-2009, 06:21 PM
When we return to being Gods, there will be no more man and woman, only androgenous people and so there will be no more babies. I think the shift that is occurring is as occurred between the thrid and the fourth....the first three being Gods, the fourth man and woman and it could be in the fifth that we begin the shift back? I also note that in most mythological figures, they never or rarely have the same items in both hands. Here we have a statue with two ankhs, the symbol of man, man and woman, fertility and eternal life.

headscratch
04-13-2009, 11:22 PM
First...mistake as to the hyroglyphics - bird..fourth not fifth. Second, mistake as to ankh - common for two to be held although often cross the chest. Everytime I seem to think I am getting somewhere, more confused than 3ever. So many religious references...ie. Julliete's sister name is rachel and was barren, just like Jacob's wife in the bible...the one tha tgod never forgot. The ankh has also been found to be observed with American Indians as well as hindus and egyptians. Now I been reading about Lemuria, an d sounds more like LEmuria than Atlantis. Notso talks about another mythological Egyptian place.

This getting on my nerves....but I am learning alot...lol.