"What lies in the shadow of the statue?"

[Daniel_Fairaday]

Interesting line by Illana........any thoughts?

[FrogertIsJacob]

Don't know, but seems that Ilana and co. will be shooting at the Flashies.

[LOSTLOST]

I dont know, but is the statue, "the statue" (four toed)? I hope so. That will be very interesting

[Unbridled Pageantry]

Interesting line by Illana........any thoughts?

Yeah that was weird. Sounds like some real inside knowledge of the island.
I wonder if they were visited by the Others at all?? Or Smokie, or something. Either way something had to happen for her to be asking that?
I was waiting for her to ask what one snowman said to the other snowman.

[boutte]

Some one sent them there but who? Charles W? Wouldn't hr know the answer to the question?

[Dreamingwolf]

The well to the donkey wheel lays in the shadow of the statue

[faradaygeek2342]

Interesting line by Illana........any thoughts?

Its the orchid. The flashies saw the statue from the orchid.

[Croft250]

The well to the donkey wheel lays in the shadow of the statue

Exactly. How does Ilana know this though?

[BucFanLostinNC]

Did anyone relate it as a riddle much like Desmonds Snowman riddle back in the Swan?

[...and found]

Ilana and Co. have been sent to the island by someone who knows about the statue. They came prepared (it's not a silver briefcase full of knives, but they'll make due).

Was she sent by Widmore or someone more nefarious? Would they introduce a new villain at this point in the series? or is it someone we already know?

Hopefully, she is referring to the four-toed statue and we'll be getting answers in two-weeks.

[...and found]

Totally. She was testing Frank and didn't buy his answer. Is Frank done-for?

[notsolost42]

Ilana has been part of the island history for a long time. Her question to Frank reminded me of the question Des asked John about the snowman. What lies in the shadow of the statue? Hell.

[Caraway]

obviously sent by widmore. she's the one who seduced and captured sayid. so we can assume widmore hired her so she could follow them to the island

[Dreamingwolf]

Exactly. How does Ilana know this though?

obviously she has been sent by someone who knows

[initiative]

Maybe Eloise tipped off widmore about the flight and widmore planted Iliana. Widmore knows about the orchid and he told Iliana.

[LOSTLOST]

Locke will know the answer to the riddle, she will ask him and he will know

[alicat]

obviously sent by widmore. she's the one who seduced and captured sayid. so we can assume widmore hired her so she could follow them to the island

It also appears she has a team of people with her. I think the question was put to Lapidus to see if he was also hired by whomever hired her. It's there "Code". It may be Widmore, not sure. Who else knew about this flight besides Mrs. Hawking?

[BucFanLostinNC]

For some reason she share alot of Alex's facial features strange.

But back to the This Statue riddle do you think the Blast Door Map could hold the answer. What side of the map should we be looking at?

[Newbie]

Whats in the shadow?
THE ISLAND

[notsolost42]

obviously sent by widmore. she's the one who seduced and captured sayid. so we can assume widmore hired her so she could follow them to the island

Ilana is evil!!!!!!!!!

[Jeremy]

Maybe the monster was born from the statue's shadow...

[Captain67]

It also appears she has a team of people with her. I think the question was put to Lapidus to see if he was also hired by whomever hired her. It's there "Code". It may be Widmore, not sure. Who else knew about this flight besides Mrs. Hawking?


Yeah that is what it sounded like to me, code for the widmore team.

[faradaygeek2342]

Did anyone relate it as a riddle much like Desmonds Snowman riddle back in the Swan?

Its possible, but I doubt it. Ilana probably found a paper or something along the lines at the Hydra and it mentioned something in the shadow of the statue. Maybe Dharma found Faradays diary and were studying it in the Hydra. I bet his diary said that about the shadows. Maybe Dharma thought Faraday was crazy about time travel stuff, and hauled him to Room 23. They probably either let him go, or he broke out. He then went to Charlotte. Thats why Sawyer said he wasn't with them. Maybe Chang didn't want the secret about time travel leaked out, so he had Faraday brainwashed. Then thats why Charlotte said he was crazy. Sawyer probably had to lock him up so he wouldn't break their lie. It isn't exactly on topic, but it's a theory.

[Dreamingwolf]

For some reason she share alot of Alex's facial features strange.

But back to the This Statue riddle do you think the Blast Door Map could hold the answer. What side of the map should we be looking at?

Ive already told you the donkey wheel is in the shadow of the statue

[dharmabum]

Ilana has been part of the island history for a long time. Her question to Frank reminded me of the question Des asked John about the snowman. What lies in the shadow of the statue? Hell.

Hmmm...could she be a female Richard Alpert? Another possible Ancient Egyptian who doesn't age? :D

[jvietor]

It also appears she has a team of people with her. I think the question was put to Lapidus to see if he was also hired by whomever hired her. It's there "Code". It may be Widmore, not sure. Who else knew about this flight besides Mrs. Hawking?

You're right, it is kind of like an "ID" code for who is on the team and "in the know" versus those who are not. They had a cargo box full of guns on the Ajira flight and they sure look like they know how to use them.

I'll bet they are Widmore's second effort to alter the equation of power on the island. Charles can't go back because then he'll be judged and killed but that doesn't mean he can't influence events thru others.

They probably were under orders to act like ordinary crash survivors and be all innocent and get information for what they need, but Cesar getting killed probably hastened their timetable. He seemed like a bad dude so probably just as well that Ben shot him.

[hyperchord24]

If they are a team, then why would they let one of those who is not on the team escape to tell Frank that they have guns?

[wecanbesaved]

Ive already told you the donkey wheel is in the shadow of the statue

Agreed.

Ilana is evil!!!!!!!!!

Also agreed.



I think she asked Frank because him and Sun were the first to leave the small Island. Ben made Caesar believe he hadn't been on the Island before, but that he thought Locke wasn't on the plane, then ended up stealing Caesar's gun and killing him. When Frank returned, Ilana asked him that to check if he had been on the Island before. I suppose she thinks if he knew the answer he was from the Island and a threat.

I still think she's evil, though. She obviously either knows or understands more than she should. And I don't believe she was sent by anyone, especially not Widmore. After the freighter incident I think he would have gone to the Island himself...Or tried to.

[notsolost42]

You're right, it is kind of like an "ID" code for who is on the team and "in the know" versus those who are not. They had a cargo box full of guns on the Ajira flight and they sure look like they know how to use them.

I'll bet they are Widmore's second effort to alter the equation of power on the island. Charles can't go back because then he'll be judged and killed but that doesn't mean he can't influence events thru others.

They probably were under orders to act like ordinary crash survivors and be all innocent and get information for what they need, but Cesar getting killed probably hastened their timetable. He seemed like a bad dude so probably just as well that Ben shot him.

This is the very beginning of the war. I think that when Ilana asked Frank what was in the shadow of the statue, it also reminded me of the riddle from the second Ghostbuster movie. I don't remember it though....I gotta find it somewhere! It was asked by the little guy that was taken over as the keeper of the gate. Yes, that was it. He was the gate keeper to the other world.......OMG!!!!

[Workman]

Are you the Key Master??? I am the Gate Keeper...

Rick Moranis ruled!

[King_Nate]

Could the temple be the bottom of the statue?

[...and found]

I'm Thor Clorthow... Rick Moranis still rules. Take off ya hoser.

[notsolost42]

Are you the Key Master??? I am the Gate Keeper...

Rick Moranis ruled!

That's it!!! lol. I think Ilana was expecting someone. Hence her question to identify them. So, if Ilana is the gate keeper, by the way, the ancient Egyptian gate keeper was Aker, then who is she waiting for? But, this is the beginning of the war to come!!!! No doubt! It is whatever exists on both worlds...the mirror matter and the real world, and they will be fighting for the island!!!!

[swaded420]

Its possible, but I doubt it. Ilana probably found a paper or something along the lines at the Hydra and it mentioned something in the shadow of the statue. Maybe Dharma found Faradays diary and were studying it in the Hydra. I bet his diary said that about the shadows. Maybe Dharma thought Faraday was crazy about time travel stuff, and hauled him to Room 23. They probably either let him go, or he broke out. He then went to Charlotte. Thats why Sawyer said he wasn't with them. Maybe Chang didn't want the secret about time travel leaked out, so he had Faraday brainwashed. Then thats why Charlotte said he was crazy. Sawyer probably had to lock him up so he wouldn't break their lie. It isn't exactly on topic, but it's a theory.

Chang and Faraday were obviously working together (check out the comicon video), so why would he brainwash him? And why would Sawyer lock him up? And I don't think Faraday would waste a single line of his notebook on something about a statue, unless the statue was directly connected to time travel and all that sort of nonsense, since that seems to be the theme of his little journal. And if

[swaded420]

Could the temple be the bottom of the statue?

I doubt it. The statue was on the beach, maybe even in the water. The temple is inland.

[Jeremy]

So, nobody agrees with my smokie/statue theory? Is it not possible that the reason the rest of the statue is gone is because it became the monster?

[MagicoA]

Did anyone relate it as a riddle much like Desmonds Snowman riddle back in the Swan?
yeah i did
Agreed.



Also agreed.



I think she asked Frank because him and Sun were the first to leave the small Island. Ben made Caesar believe he hadn't been on the Island before, but that he thought Locke wasn't on the plane, then ended up stealing Caesar's gun and killing him. When Frank returned, Ilana asked him that to check if he had been on the Island before. I suppose she thinks if he knew the answer he was from the Island and a threat.

I still think she's evil, though. She obviously either knows or understands more than she should. And I don't believe she was sent by anyone, especially not Widmore. After the freighter incident I think he would have gone to the Island himself...Or tried to.
widmore said when he talked to ben b4 he attacked penny that he tried for 20 years to get back and no success
So, nobody agrees with my smokie/statue theory? Is it not possible that the reason the rest of the statue is gone is because it became the monster?
hell its possible

[swaded420]

So, nobody agrees with my smokie/statue theory? Is it not possible that the reason the rest of the statue is gone is because it became the monster?

I disagree 100%. Why would he leave the foot behind? Doesn't he need that to get around? More importantly, Smokey was depicted in the room beneath the table, judging Anubis (was that Anubis? I'm ignorant when it comes to Egyptian mythology.) which means that it has been around a long, long time, probably longer than the statue.

[Jeremy]

I disagree 100%. Why would he leave the foot behind? Doesn't he need that to get around? More importantly, Smokey was depicted in the room beneath the table, judging Anubis (was that Anubis? I'm ignorant when it comes to Egyptian mythology.) which means that it has been around a long, long time, probably longer than the statue.

Are we sure it was judging Anubis? Or could it be interperated that it was Anubis looking at it's own shadow?

[swaded420]

Are we sure it was judging Anubis? Or could it be interperated that it was Anubis looking at it's own shadow?

Well we're never sure, that's for sure. But it looked as though if he weren't being judged by Smokey, he was praying or worshiping or something along those lines. Regardless, it looked as though that was definitely a depiction of the smoke monster, as best as one can do when carving it into stone at least. But as I said, we're never sure, this is just my opinion.

[InTheBeginning]

That's no shadow!
http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/575a395d5095e5017f5c287c919f0190.jpg

[InTheBeginning]

looks like there is an eye right in the bottom center above the snake. hmmmm

[NoData]

Looks more like Anubis is feeding Smokie a treat!

[notsolost42]

I doubt it. The statue was on the beach, maybe even in the water. The temple is inland.

You know, it's funny that you said that. I just read somewhere that you have to get wet to get into the temple. It had to have been from one of the interviews I read. We only got into the basement from the outside fence. The temple is still a half mile in? Quarter mile? One or the other.

[notsolost42]

looks like there is an eye right in the bottom center above the snake. hmmmm

Where are you looking? Snake? What snake? That's very important!!! Ma'at and the temple of Ma'at! Do you have a screen cap or something or were you just winging it?

[InTheBeginning]

Where are you looking? Snake? What snake? That's very important!!! Ma'at and the temple of Ma'at! Do you have a screen cap or something or were you just winging it?

Scroll up....or take a look here http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/575a395d5095e5017f5c287c919f0190.jpg

[Workman]

Its not working on my comp, but is that the picture of Smokie with Anubis??? I've been trying to find that!

[NoData]

Its not working on my comp, but is that the picture of Smokie with Anubis??? I've been trying to find that!It's a really nice 1280x720 pixel image. Very clear.

[InTheBeginning]

Its not working on my comp, but is that the picture of Smokie with Anubis??? I've been trying to find that!

Try the link above. I did paste the whole pic in post #41.

[notsolost42]

Scroll up....or take a look here http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/575a395d5095e5017f5c287c919f0190.jpg

The link doesn't work.

[Workman]

Post 41 doesn't show up for me and the link says no hotlinking...

[notsolost42]

Its not working on my comp, but is that the picture of Smokie with Anubis??? I've been trying to find that!

Mine either. It says it doesn't work.

[InTheBeginning]

Post 41 doesn't show up for me and the link says no hotlinking...

Mine either. It says it doesn't work.

Try here (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/). Takes a bit to load...plaenty of screencaps up already!

[Workman]

Very nice thanks!

[notsolost42]

Try here (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/). Takes a bit to load...plaenty of screencaps up already!

Now we're talking! Great!!!! Anyone else notice the ankh in the upper right corner is upside down??????????? Mirrored!!!!!!!

[wiley]

Yeah that is what it sounded like to me, code for the widmore team.

Agreed she's an agent along with some other agents 007 008 etc they know not of each other, so the answer to the question is a way to identify the other agents or members of the team.

[notsolost42]

Agreed she's an agent along with some other agents 007 008 etc they know not of each other, so the answer to the question is a way to identify the other agents or members of the team.

Perhaps an ancient team?

[etfrompo]

Perhaps an ancient team?

The ancients were what the Stargate Atlantis crew called the original inhabitants of the city.

[MsSpaceman]

Interesting line by Illana........any thoughts?

......Richard's mom.

Whoops!!! Sorry, wrong thread.

[dharmabum]

Well we're never sure, that's for sure. But it looked as though if he weren't being judged by Smokey, he was praying or worshiping or something along those lines. Regardless, it looked as though that was definitely a depiction of the smoke monster, as best as one can do when carving it into stone at least. But as I said, we're never sure, this is just my opinion.
I don't think Egyptian gods were subject to judgement. The conflict between Set and the other gods is the closest thing I can think of. And the Egyptian gods certainly didn't worship anyone or anything, they themselves being objects of worship. I think the carving was implying that either Smokie is a reflection/aspect of Anubis, or it's a reference to the fact that both Smokie and Anubis deal with the dead.

[FanFiltration]

My theory is that Illana was sent by "Ann Arbor".

[huntsy7]

Ok I'm going to go in a completely different direction. What if it wasn't a code or something told to them by Whidmore. But rather they were searching through Ben's office and found some documents with one containing this phrase. They could have discovered some info on Frank in his office as well (Ben has info on everybody) and asked Frank because they now know he is more than just the pilot.

Now, as far as what the phrase means, I think we already saw it last night. I think Ben had some documents in his office containing the rules of the island. If you break these rules you must be judged. When you are judged you see "what lies in the shadow of the statue". Anubis is the statue and the gatekeeper. Smokie is referred to as his shadow that literally shows you your past and your fate. In other words, the images shown to Ben and the apparition of Alex is what lied in the shadow for Ben. This is how I interpreted it anyway.

[revror]

I'm thinking that the Egyptians discovered the Island and Smokie and tried to make sense of it by linking it into their mythology, rather than the whole show being an allegory for Egyptian mythology.

[Chicagoish]

So is Frank supposed to know the answer to what lie’s in the Shadow and is just playing dumb, or is he truly ignorant?

I think there is more to Frank than just wanting to get back to the Airliner.

[shotgun willy]

I definitly think its a code phrase, or its just as simple as theres a statue on that hydra island where the Ajiracrew are, and they made it their phrase or something.

as far as that ankh symbol being mirrored, its upside down, not backwards.

did anyone else think the smokie flashbacks were suuuuper cheesey? i was really looking forward to seeing ben get roughed up, not cry like a little girl

[snow24]

My theory is that Illana was sent by "Ann Arbor".

a city sent her? well i gotta say I wouldn't want to live in Michigan either :)

but really, if Dharma sent her, it would be an interesting twist, it could be the start of the war widemore spoke to Locke about

[Losterella]

a city sent her? well i gotta say I wouldn't want to live in Michigan either :)

but really, if Dharma sent her, it would be an interesting twist, it could be the start of the war widemore spoke to Locke about
I've often wondered why Dharma didn't send people back to settle the score. Well at least we haven't seen it. I can't believe that after all their people were gassed and dumped in a pit they would just forget about it. Especially knowing how special the island is.

Could Widmore have joined forces with Dharma? Given his banishment maybe he wants a little revenge or a piece of the Island action? I think Ilana and the latest bunch of crash victims are there on a mission either as with Widmore, Dharma or both. Any thoughts?

[shotgun willy]

I've often wondered why Dharma didn't send people back to settle the score. Well at least we haven't seen it. I can't believe that after all their people were gassed and dumped in a pit they would just forget about it. Especially knowing how special the island is.

Could Widmore have joined forces with Dharma? Given his banishment maybe he wants a little revenge or a piece of the Island action? I think Ilana and the latest bunch of crash victims are there on a mission either as with Widmore, Dharma or both. Any thoughts?

i always kinda figured that ben and the others just started acting like the dharma on the other end of the phone...not literally but you know what im getting at

[Mezmo]

In the Video at Comiccon with Chang talking about president bush and whatnot, he stated that it's important for Dharma to be reinstated on the island. Perhaps Ilana and crew are the new Dharma initiative. and this time, they're not f'ing around. All business! And a war will follow if anyone gets in the way...which of course they will, otherwise this wouldn't be the best show ever.
The old Initiative is dead! Long live the new Dharma Initiative....or something....

[losttime]

I know this is probab ly not the thread to bring this up but for I really dont know how to start a thread on this thing, but could Walt been referring to the guys surrounding Locke when he was about to take the boat to the main island when he said he saw a bunch of people surrounding him who wanted to kill him? I know its loosely translated but any thoughts?

[thebecoming]

The change in Ilana's demeanor from past episodes to the end of this one was quite jarring to me; she went from bounty hunter appearing clueless as to what was going on, to "answer this obscure but important Island riddle!" The change in demeanor almost mirrors the change in Alex's father, before following Smokie below the temple, and after when he tried to kill Rousseau.

Noting this, and the fact that Smokie did not show up when Ben called it, is it possible that Smokie was dealing with Ilana and crew on the other island? Are they now "infected"? Was the riddle meant to see if Smokie had gotten Lapidus yet, and the answer to the riddle comes with getting infected?

[Lost in Lost]

My take is that it's Widmore's crew and it's there way to see who is really one of them...to reorganize and try to take back the island. My guess is CW had this planned out since the time he was escorted off the island.

[InTheBeginning]

I was thinking about this on the treadmill today. 5 miles can get your mind going in all kinds of directions. I have to keep it light sometimes...

This is what lies in the shadow of the statue.

http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/05_08/1989/0096928/l_45325_0096928_9d4ce1eb.jpg

[marsyas]

That woman and her crew are definitely on the inside of things, they're there on some sort of mission. It seemed like Ben knew what they were up to too when he asked them if they needed help with the large metal crate they were struggling with. I wonder what is in that thing?

[delfrio]

It seemed like Ben knew what they were up to too when he asked them if they needed help with the large metal crate they were struggling with. I wonder what is in that thing?

It's the magic box.

[Mezmo]

Here's a theory.
The crate contains a payload that is intended to be used to blow up the jughead that is burried somewhere on the island....possible adjacent to the former swan station.....near a hallway full of concrete? that possibly had something to do with 'the incident'?
Jack will find the jughead and go nuts and try to set it off (cuz that guy just has to have SOMETHING to fix) to solve everybodies problems....and it doesn't work of course....

[5starboss]

wow, this thread is turning into a behemoth. The Riddle and Silver crate clearly shows Ajira 316 was loaded with people who knew they were not going to Guam. The lines are not clear, but I think Widmore is behind the new arrivals. Perhaps 316is WIdmore's 2nd attempt to remove Ben? that or, they're Loyal Others to BEN.

[Chicagoish]

wow, this thread is turning into a behemoth. The Riddle and Silver crate clearly shows Ajira 316 was loaded with people who knew they were not going to Guam. The lines are not clear, but I think Widmore is behind the new arrivals. Perhaps 316is WIdmore's 2nd attempt to remove Ben? that or, they're Loyal Others to BEN.

Right and is Frank part if it is my question? I know he didn't answer the riddle, but that doesn't me he can't. He was a Widmore employee the first go round, as is/was Daniel, Charlotte and Miles. Where do they play in the upcoming "war?"

[LissaMarie]

wow, this thread is turning into a behemoth. The Riddle and Silver crate clearly shows Ajira 316 was loaded with people who knew they were not going to Guam. The lines are not clear, but I think Widmore is behind the new arrivals. Perhaps 316is WIdmore's 2nd attempt to remove Ben? that or, they're Loyal Others to BEN.

Hmmmm. That's interesting. I don't think Ilana and her crew are loyal Others to Ben and I was under the assumption that they were Widmore's 2nd attempt...but Ben did tell them his name, right? If they were part of Widmore's crew, wouldn't they have reacted when Ben told them who he was? Wouldn't Widmore have told them about Ben?

Maybe Widmore realizes that the island won't let Ben die and that it isn't done with him yet so Widmore has a new tactic this time? Focus on the island or the Others and not Ben? What do you all think?

[DHARMABOY]

I definitly think its a code phrase, or its just as simple as theres a statue on that hydra island where the Ajiracrew are, and they made it their phrase or something.

as far as that ankh symbol being mirrored, its upside down, not backwards.

did anyone else think the smokie flashbacks were suuuuper cheesey? i was really looking forward to seeing ben get roughed up, not cry like a little girl
I also think they flashbacks were cheesy like from some mid 80's b-movie. Even kinda reminded me of one of the superman man films when Clark goes to that ice palace thingy?? Someone put me right here.

[5starboss]

Right and is Frank part if it is my question? I know he didn't answer the riddle, but that doesn't mean he can't. He was a Widmore employee the first go round, as is/was Daniel, Charlotte and Miles. Where do they play in the upcoming "war?"

yes sir, i agree about Frank. He acted like he was acting to not know the answer, but he did all along.:confused:

I thought he was playing dumb, and why would he not answer the Riddle if he knew it.

[Maybelline]

wow, this thread is turning into a behemoth. The Riddle and Silver crate clearly shows Ajira 316 was loaded with people who knew they were not going to Guam. The lines are not clear, but I think Widmore is behind the new arrivals. Perhaps 316is WIdmore's 2nd attempt to remove Ben? that or, they're Loyal Others to BEN.

The thing is Ben didn't seem to be suprised to see Sayid on the plane or at least he didn't seem to be to me. If it was Widmore who hired Ilana, wouldn't Ben wonder how Sayid just happened to be dettained on that specific flight? Idk it definitely seems that Ben has some knowledge of whats going on :confused:

[0o0dead0o0]

i think there were sent by someone, and "what lies in the shadow of the statue" sounds like a code/riddle that if your one of them you would know the answer too

[5starboss]

i think there were sent by someone, and "what lies in the shadow of the statue" sounds like a code/riddle that if your one of them you would know the answer too

i also wonder if its a joke? I know it doesn't sound like a joke, but it would be cool if it was. What did one snowman say to the other snowman-smells like carrots. what is in the shadow of the statue-everyone expects a serious answer like the Temple, or the Island, or the FDW......but what if it was funny? prolly not lol

[Moxy]

Unless ilana meant it in the context of what's on the other island/what did you see.

IMO she's there for more than escorting Sayid. Charles would have known they were heading back from Ben's phone call, and could have contacted Mrs H or in a conversation with Des/Penny we haven't yet seen it comes out which plane (bit chancy I admit). Still not 100% convinced though that she's a Widmore gal.

[faradaygeek2342]

Chang and Faraday were obviously working together (check out the comicon video), so why would he brainwash him? And why would Sawyer lock him up? And I don't think Faraday would waste a single line of his notebook on something about a statue, unless the statue was directly connected to time travel and all that sort of nonsense, since that seems to be the theme of his little journal. And if

Maybe when Faraday wrote the journal, he didn't know about the orchid. Maybe Chang found the the journal and read it. He probably thought daniel was a hostile trying to learn about the orchid. Faraday was distracted by charlottes death and forgot to write the stuff down about the orchid. Maybe Sawyer didn't lock him up, but he could have. He had Sayid locked up so his cover wasn't blown. He could have said Sayid was a missing crew member that they were looking for. Of course Sayid didn't want to become Dharma.

[beachblinkette]

Maybe what Lies in the shadow of the statue is NOTHING because the shadow doesn't lie. If Smokie is the shadow, then all of your human faults are revealed and made true for you to see as your life flashes before your eyes. Eko's pics were of his sacrifice and then his other dealings which eventually took the life he saved, Yemi. So nothing is able to lie in the shadow of the statue. HMM???

[sirchin]

It was not a riddle, or even a real question. She was asking for a password, Frank didn't know it, so she cold-cocked him.

[...and found]

I really like that interpretation. It shows that Illana is in the know about the workings of the island and suggests she may be a one-time or long-time inhabitant (like Richard). In light of the fact that we saw Ben in the "shadow" this episode I see it as a really good possibility.

I also like the idea that they are the reformation of the DI. I think the silver crate is full of many small arms and there are more than the 4 people we have seen. I don't think they would want to detonate Jughead, theye just want the Island back and all to themselves.

[Glaurung]

she's part of it all....she knows something....is it the orchid or....the bomb that lies in the shadow? is she really Egyptian?

[mnm4334]

Was she sent by Widmore? I seriously doubt it. What lies in the shadow of the statue has many interpretations but if it is the giant four towed statue we saw then its possible the answer is simply the island.

Dont rush to hastily to think that Ilana knew the answer though. If widmore had sent a team, wouldnt the team know eachother? It seems much more Alvar Hanso esque to me.

Widmore got Locke back to the island, even if he didnt do it directly he helped Locke on his journey and emparted him with valuable information. Ben is now charged with being Lockes bitch, or getting killed by smokie, that puts Ben and Locke firmly on the same side, with Widmore backing Locke and Ben having to follow Lockes lead, it seems we have the formation of a faction. Widmore and Ben's feud is over, that story has played out Ben is now going to attone for his crimes.

We all knew the 316ers seemed a little too okay with landing on the island, but Ceasar seemed out of place, he didnt seem to know what the deal was, but Illana, she was at ease, Ceasar also hid the weapon from Illana, which leads me to believe that they did not work for the same person.

I believe there are a few possibilites for whats going on in 2007, first we have Alvar Hanso, dharma leader sending them. An unknown Flashie influencing things, think Rose and Bernard, a lot of people were flashing but we don't know where they were when the record stopped skipping. The 316ers got infected, we have no clue whats been happening on the island for three years, no clue where modern hostiles are, all we know is that pretty soon Illana and gang are gonna go on a warpath and they will find the abandoned camp left by the 815ers three years ago, one of them gets shot by a time shifting juliette, but if they look hard enough, they will find the cockpit and wreckage from the original crash, man ****s about to get crazy in 07, im stoked.

[JfromtheD]

yes sir, i agree about Frank. He acted like he was acting to not know the answer, but he did all along.:confused:

I thought he was playing dumb, and why would he not answer the Riddle if he knew it.
Frank knew...
I guess it's part of Lost mystery as to how he knows. But for now, he's 'tied up and taken along' for the ride.

[JfromtheD]

These are examples of context, not to be thought of as theories.

What lies in the shadow of the statue? (A person waiting?)
- "Richard lies in the shadow of the statue, waiting to meet with you"


What lie's in the shadow of the statue? (A lie to keep something secret?)
- "The lie in the shadow of the statue is, the real Jughead."


What lies in the shadow of the statue? (A person lying)
- "Widmore lied in the shadow of the statue, and should be exiled"


What lies in the shadow of the statue? (Direction?)
- "The path to the Temple, lies in the shadow of the statue"


What lies in the shadow of the statue? (An Object)
- "The case of supplies you need, lies in the shadow of the statue"

[losttime]

I wonder if its a code similar to the one that Desmond used on Locke when finding out if he was Desmonds replacement? Possibly that it could be determing who is a friendly or foe.

[mnm4334]

I wonder if its a code similar to the one that Desmond used on Locke when finding out if he was Desmonds replacement? Possibly that it could be determing who is a friendly or foe.

Smells like carrots.