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Losterella
04-09-2009, 11:37 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering if Alex was "saved" by Richard and the gang after being shot by Keamy, or was she really Smokie taking human form to get the point across to Ben? Any thoughts?

JfromtheD
04-09-2009, 11:41 PM
She was Smoke Monster...
Damn, that was cool! :)

Marwah
04-09-2009, 11:42 PM
i was thinking that too, she is the somkeiy warning ben throw her

LostInSpaceTime
04-09-2009, 11:44 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering if Alex was "saved" by Richard and the gang after being shot by Keamy, or was she really Smokie taking human form to get the point across to Ben? Any thoughts?

i think smokie, she acted alot like ekos brother after eko sees smokie

Losterella
04-09-2009, 11:53 PM
i think smokie, she acted alot like ekos brother after eko sees smokie
Yep, I think you are right. I forgot about the Ecko and Yemi scene. Thanks!

JfromtheD
04-09-2009, 11:57 PM
Marwah, I liked your gallery.
John Locke is a perfect likeness!
And I liked the fighting dinosaurs too. :)

Glaurung
04-10-2009, 12:23 AM
I think smokie, a warning that Ben would emotionally connect with....but it is weird that the human form of smokie could grab Ben and throw him against a pillar....I'm not sure I get the connection between smoke form and physical form....how it works....

Ted "lost one" Digsol
04-10-2009, 01:47 AM
I think smokie, a warning that Ben would emotionally connect with....but it is weird that the human form of smokie could grab Ben and throw him against a pillar....I'm not sure I get the connection between smoke form and physical form....how it works....

i am not sure exactly either, when mr. ecko was killed by smokie, it picked him up physically and had it's way with him. the first time mr. ecko encountered smokie all we saw was the smoke and some shadows and the strange sounds.with ben saw smokie it was like we got to see what we didn.t see with mr. ecko, an entire exchange between" alex" or smokie and ben, my point is we saw "alex"move ben physically and we saw smokie move mr.ecko it think it the same action,from a different point of view.

dharmabum
04-10-2009, 02:12 AM
We've seen Smokie drag several people across the ground. One of the frenchmen, for instance. I think it's also lifted people into the air other than Ecko, but I can't recall any specific instances. Suffice to say, this creature may be amorphous, but its properties are very different from those of mere "smoke".

meiyoki
04-10-2009, 02:41 AM
i believe that Smokie took the form of Alex as it has done with other characters such as Yemi . It clearly has supernatural powers in any form it takes . It has mentally dominated losties and it can physically dominate them in smoke form or physical ( human/animal) form.

Looking4aSensibleEnding
04-10-2009, 03:39 AM
She was Smoke Monster...
Damn, that was cool! :)
Yep, Smokie in the form of Alex. My question is, why did Smokie first judge Eko to be o.k. and then kill him later? He hadn't done anything bad on the Island, so what gives?

SkippingInTime
04-10-2009, 05:57 AM
I'm inclined to believe it was Smokey, unless smokey happens to be a collection of spiritswho passed away on the island, then it could be anyone who passed away. I'm just throwing that thought out in the open.

by the way, anyone find it interesting Ben's voice seemed altered after the event. I wonder if his voice will stay that way or return back to normal?

Either way awesome scene. I loved it.

littleredman
04-10-2009, 01:01 PM
I've been wondering this, since we actually saw Smoke disappear back into his little vent. Does he have another exit? Or what?

losttime
04-10-2009, 01:48 PM
I can say without a doubt in my mind that it was Smokey taking on the form of Alex. The personality was very similar to Yemi's and the strength it had to move Ben like a rag doll is a far fetch from what Alex was capable of, almost lifting Ben off the ground. Beside, how would Alex know, not having seen Ben know that he was already plotting to kill Locke again?

JfromtheD
04-10-2009, 01:53 PM
Yep, Smokie in the form of Alex. My question is, why did Smokie first judge Eko to be o.k. and then kill him later? He hadn't done anything bad on the Island, so what gives?
I'm glad you mention it, because I thought the same thing watching it!
"Oh, boy... we haven't seen the last of her/it."

Imagine the irony of Ben being killed be his 'daughter.'

natego
04-10-2009, 02:00 PM
DUDE! She got shot directly in the HEAD! How do ya cure that? She was most definitely the smoke monster or an apparition.

Jackisthemist
04-10-2009, 05:31 PM
...

To something completly different... I was looking at your avatar, and was trying to remember if that stiff with all the beer cans had a name, or if it was just "workman". Jack is a drunk, and a workman...

natego
04-10-2009, 05:42 PM
To something completly different... I was looking at your avatar, and was trying to remember if that stiff with all the beer cans had a name, or if it was just "workman". Jack is a drunk, and a workman...

So was Roger Linus.

Richard_Cranium
04-10-2009, 05:44 PM
To something completly different... I was looking at your avatar, and was trying to remember if that stiff with all the beer cans had a name, or if it was just "workman". Jack is a drunk, and a workman...

the dead guy in the av is Roger (Ben's dad) from the van Hurley found

Simon Blackrock
04-10-2009, 05:54 PM
I agree that Alex was smokie, but is smokie all the dead people we have seen? I have heard before people saying Christian could be smokie, now i think they could be correct. But it would mean smokie can go off island which is really wierd and something i have never seen mentioned! could this be? And the dead that Hurley sees, are they smokie too???? Could Hurley have a special connection with smokie?

meiyoki
04-11-2009, 12:11 AM
i think christian was brought back as was locke . i dont think christian is smokie and i think hurley see's is all in his head not smokie

Simon Blackrock
04-11-2009, 06:00 PM
so you think christian is actually alive?

meiyoki
04-11-2009, 08:43 PM
i believe whatever just happened to Locke during or after the ajira crash happened to Christian during or after the oceanic crash

wiley
04-11-2009, 09:59 PM
i think christian was brought back as was locke . i dont think christian is smokie and i think hurley see's is all in his head not smokie

As far as Hurley is concerned, he was not the only one who saw Charlie on the grounds of the mental hospital. If you go re-watch that scene you will see another patient that points out to Hurley something like "Hey that guy over there is staring at you".

XmasDVD
04-11-2009, 11:22 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering if Alex was "saved" by Richard and the gang after being shot by Keamy, or was she really Smokie taking human form to get the point across to Ben? Any thoughts?

..I'll quote from last week's title because I think it was titled for a reason..
"Dead is Dead"

JfromtheD
04-12-2009, 01:20 AM
Dead is dead... Just ask John Locke. :confused:

(welcome back, by the way.):)

Simon Blackrock
04-12-2009, 04:13 PM
as special as christian is he isnt john locke and i am not too sure if he is really alive. he could be i guess but he also could be smokie.

Every 108 Minutes
04-12-2009, 05:01 PM
i believe whatever just happened to Locke during or after the ajira crash happened to Christian during or after the oceanic crash

I think this is exactly right, Christian's body was on that plane but it wasn't in the closed casket when jack opened it up early S1. This makes it pretty clear that the Christian we see is indeed jacks father and not smokie.

Alex, on the other hand, is dead and what we saw was smokie.

abcd1234
04-13-2009, 11:18 AM
its not the same though, christian appeared to jack in L.A., he appeared to michael on the freighter, and he appeared to locke in the cave by the wheel. Locke seems to have human abilities, nothing like that.