DI Submarine

[notsolost42]

Okay, this is gonna sound really strange but it is true. A lot of times things come to me in my sleep. I guess my mind works overtime or something. Last night I had a weird dream about the DI sub. We saw that Locke supposedly blew it up. I was completly on that band wagon until I had this dream last night. I haven't even thought about the darned thing and don't even know why I suddenly was dreaming about it. It's really off beat but hear me out.

I dreamed that Locke didn't blow up the sub, as many people have already said, but rather "parked" it at the bottom of the inlet there, filled the exit hatch with water, and swam back. He then just blew up the area where the sub was. But then I had the dream again and this time Locke took the sub to the underwater station (sorry memory fails me at the moment for the name) and left it there and swam back and of course set off the explosives.

Okay, so to me now I have come up with two off beat but logical sounding things he could have done with the sub. If the sub is still around, and it may very well be, then that will be the way off the island for whatever losties remain after all is said and done.

What do you all think....be nice, after all, I was sleeping at the time!

[krakup]

wouldnt be bad to have a sub incase of emergency. if anyone could stash a sub, john locke could ;)

[Frolas]

I have thought of that before... I never did fully believe that the Sub was destroyed

[LostandAlone]

Okay, this is gonna sound really strange but it is true. A lot of times things come to me in my sleep. I guess my mind works overtime or something. Last night I had a weird dream about the DI sub. We saw that Locke supposedly blew it up. I was completly on that band wagon until I had this dream last night. I haven't even thought about the darned thing and don't even know why I suddenly was dreaming about it. It's really off beat but hear me out.

I dreamed that Locke didn't blow up the sub, as many people have already said, but rather "parked" it at the bottom of the inlet there, filled the exit hatch with water, and swam back. He then just blew up the area where the sub was. But then I had the dream again and this time Locke took the sub to the underwater station (sorry memory fails me at the moment for the name) and left it there and swam back and of course set off the explosives.

Okay, so to me now I have come up with two off beat but logical sounding things he could have done with the sub. If the sub is still around, and it may very well be, then that will be the way off the island for whatever losties remain after all is said and done.

What do you all think....be nice, after all, I was sleeping at the time!
Notso - good dreamin'!
I think when we dream it is your own sub-consious mind creating story lines we need/want to create for whatever reason. Altho it is plausable the the sub was saved, I think not likely. However....if the sub and adjacent dock were blown-up, why did it look un-scarred when Sun and whats-his-name-pilot paddled up to it 3 years later?

[notsolost42]

Notso - good dreamin'!
I think when we dream it is your own sub-consious mind creating story lines we need/want to create for whatever reason. Altho it is plausable the the sub was saved, I think not likely. However....if the sub and adjacent dock were blown-up, why did it look un-scarred when Sun and whats-his-name-pilot paddled up to it 3 years later?

I think Locke just supposedly blew up the sub and the dock was okay? Go figure. But, we do see some damage when Sun, Frank, and Ben get over there with the outriggers. The lamps are down and so forth.

I was a firm believer that it was destroyed but I guess subconsciously, now that we see what's going on with the plotline, I know the survivors that want to leave will need a way. That's what I dreamed. Whether it's true or not is yet to be known but we'll find out eventually!

[Panda]

If you have a dream, the info you can get of your own dream is info that you can use in your personal life.
What you dream doesn't have to be an answer on your questions you have about the show "Lost". It may be answers on questions you may still have in your own life, and decisions you may have to take in your own life.
It doesn't mean that when you dream about personality's and events in Lost, that the info you get is related to Lost.

So you could ask yourself...;what does a submarine stands for in my own dream language.
If you know what the sub stands for in your own personal life....it may be an eye-opener for your personal growth.

If you say that you don't believe the sub was blown up ....it means that you don't believe any longer that a certain thing in your life is not possible anymore.
If you believe that the sub is still in tact and that you can move on with that sub, it means that something in your life is still in tact even when you believed it wasn't and that you can still use that thing to move on forward into your life and own growth.

Up to you to find out what that sub stands for.
Or what core beliefs you may have to let go to go forward in your own life.

Our dreams are the most personal thing we have. So that is why I think that those dreams always reflect things of our own lives and do not really have to answer questions of a TV show.
Of course if a TV show is all you have in your life, and you urge to have answers on that TV show because you haven't any other goals, than of course your dream will try to bring answers, as that show is the only thing you are living for.

But I really doubt that people are just only living for a show on TV and that top priority in their lives is to find the answers on lost.
And in that case dreams are not giving answers on questions in Lost, but in questions on prior things in your own life.

But of course this is nothing but an opinion. And it may be totally wrong.
As I have to admit that the way I look at dreams is also nothing but a guess....as most things in life.

[notsolost42]

If you have a dream, the info you can get of your own dream is info that you can use in your personal life.
What you dream doesn't have to be an answer on your questions you have about the show "Lost". It may be answers on questions you may still have in your own life, and decisions you may have to take in your own life.
It doesn't mean that when you dream about personality's and events in Lost, that the info you get is related to Lost.

So you could ask yourself...;what does a submarine stands for in my own dream language.
If you know what the sub stands for in your own personal life....it may be an eye-opener for your personal growth.

If you say that you don't believe the sub was blown up ....it means that you don't believe any longer that a certain thing in your life is not possible anymore.
If you believe that the sub is still in tact and that you can move on with that sub, it means that something in your life is still in tact even when you believed it wasn't and that you can still use that thing to move on forward into your life and own growth.

Up to you to find out what that sub stands for.
Or what core beliefs you may have to let go to go forward in your own life.

Our dreams are the most personal thing we have. So that is why I think that those dreams always reflect things of our own lives and do not really have to answer questions of a TV show.
Of course if a TV show is all you have in your life, and you urge to have answers on that TV show because you haven't any other goals, than of course your dream will try to bring answers, as that show is the only thing you are living for.

But I really doubt that people are just only living for a show on TV and that top priority in their lives is to find the answers on lost.
And in that case dreams are not giving answers on questions in Lost, but in questions on prior things in your own life.

But of course this is nothing but an opinion. And it may be totally wrong.
As I have to admit that the way I look at dreams is also nothing but a guess....as most things in life.


Thanks for the insight about dreams Panda but I often have dreams that work out real life questions and they are very easy to understand. I think the sub is just a sub in this case.

[Panda]

Thanks for the insight about dreams Panda but I often have dreams that work out real life questions and they are very easy to understand. I think the sub is just a sub in this case.

Yep it is possible. You know your own dreams best. And that is great.
If you are sure it is just a sub and the dream is just a cause of thinking about the show and popped up in your dream than it is possible that there is no answer to life questions, and it is just a result of "archiving" or like a "defrag" in your brain concerning hings you think about but are not prior in your life. And that you happen to remember those as well.

[notsolost42]

Yep it is possible. You know your own dreams best. And that is great.
If you are sure it is just a sub and the dream is just a cause of thinking about the show and popped up in your dream than it is possible that there is no answer to life questions, and it is just a result of "archiving" or like a "defrag" in your brain concerning hings you think about but are not prior in your life. And that you happen to remember those as well.

I love that "defrag" metaphor! That's it exactly. My brain always does that in my sleep. I guess there are less distractions. I've solved math problems, remembered things I couldn't think of all day long, and things of that nature. So, it was no real surprise to me to have had those thoughts! Thanks Panda!

[Unbridled Pageantry]

I don't think Locke could have taken the sub to the Looking Glass at that time, because those to girls would still have been down there.
Locke blew up that sub midway through season 3, and then we see the Looking Glass in the finale's of season 3.

[notsolost42]

I don't think Locke could have taken the sub to the Looking Glass at that time, because those to girls would still have been down there.
Locke blew up that sub midway through season 3, and then we see the Looking Glass in the finale's of season 3.

True, if they were there yet. Ben told the Others that he sent the two girls were someplace else and we don't know when that happened. Mikhail revealed that info when he went down there and confronted them before he was harpooned. Ya never know. It's just a possibility.

[Camotyger20]

True, if they were there yet. Ben told the Others that he sent the two girls were someplace else and we don't know when that happened. Mikhail revealed that info when he went down there and confronted them before he was harpooned. Ya never know. It's just a possibility.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, but John is all about the island, he's a company man, island company. He has no intention of letting anyone leave the island, in fact in that same episode he said no one is leaving this island.

[gwynnie]

Panda:

It is a well-established (was first a) theory and now long accepted fact by scientists, psychologists, psychiatrists, et al. that dreams do -- among other things - reflect and continue conscious thinking while one is in a sleep state. It is not as you say that someone who wakes up with continuing thoughts/new conclusions "has nothing else in their life other than a TV show, etc." That is most presumptuous of you to imply in reference to subconscious brain activity. Many people "work out problems" during sleep and wake up with "the answer" to conflict in their personal lives; OR if one is cogitating about a puzzle, such as the mystery of a "TV show" during the day, it is all together very they would continue to "think" about it during sleep...without the TV program being the sole focus of one's life.

I would worry more about someone who occupies an entire day thinking about any one subject - be it TV or any other sole activity. That would be obsessional thinking and would be termed pathological.

[losttime]

Okay, this is gonna sound really strange but it is true. A lot of times things come to me in my sleep. I guess my mind works overtime or something. Last night I had a weird dream about the DI sub. We saw that Locke supposedly blew it up. I was completly on that band wagon until I had this dream last night. I haven't even thought about the darned thing and don't even know why I suddenly was dreaming about it. It's really off beat but hear me out.

I dreamed that Locke didn't blow up the sub, as many people have already said, but rather "parked" it at the bottom of the inlet there, filled the exit hatch with water, and swam back. He then just blew up the area where the sub was. But then I had the dream again and this time Locke took the sub to the underwater station (sorry memory fails me at the moment for the name) and left it there and swam back and of course set off the explosives.

Okay, so to me now I have come up with two off beat but logical sounding things he could have done with the sub. If the sub is still around, and it may very well be, then that will be the way off the island for whatever losties remain after all is said and done.

What do you all think....be nice, after all, I was sleeping at the time!

OK 1)"Just say no to drugs" Locke was not concerned with anything other than making sure no one else got off the Island. He knew his job was to protect it and I am sure the Sub is now a mess following the explosion. Locke was in the sub and most certainly planted the explosives. I dont recall Locke being soaking wet right before the submarine exploded and are you trying to say he swam to the Looking Glass station, (suggesting he knew where it was at the time I dont recall him knowing that just yet). swam back to the dock completely dried himself off and happend to be walking back from where the sub was roughly 50 yards away? I am sure your dreams are very vivid to you but doubt highly that either of your dreams are what happend in this case. I think the sub is gone and no longer present in that current time frame.

[New Age Messiah]

LMAO. Blow up the sub so people can't leave. That was so frickin outrageous, Locke set the bar early. Or, he hid the sub, and will lead the people to it, someday. Either way, he's the man.

Panda, great stuff on dreams. I had one, where I was being chased and I was carrying the U.S. flag, since I have been very active in political things, I guess, and when I dropped the flag, I was able to get away.

I think there is going to be a New World Order of some kind, the hamster wheel of nation vs. nation is coming off the track, will go boom if we don't alter the path.

What is your native language, BTW? I speak German and some Russian.

[notsolost42]

OK 1)"Just say no to drugs" Locke was not concerned with anything other than making sure no one else got off the Island. He knew his job was to protect it and I am sure the Sub is now a mess following the explosion. Locke was in the sub and most certainly planted the explosives. I dont recall Locke being soaking wet right before the submarine exploded and are you trying to say he swam to the Looking Glass station, (suggesting he knew where it was at the time I dont recall him knowing that just yet). swam back to the dock completely dried himself off and happend to be walking back from where the sub was roughly 50 yards away? I am sure your dreams are very vivid to you but doubt highly that either of your dreams are what happend in this case. I think the sub is gone and no longer present in that current time frame.

Yeah, well accept for the fact that Locke was soaking wet when we see him on the dock after he is in the submarine. Perhaps you should go back and take another look see. So, TPTB have actually left the door open for interpretation.

[New Age Messiah]

Of course if a TV show is all you have in your life, and you urge to have answers on that TV show because you haven't any other goals, than of course your dream will try to bring answers, as that show is the only thing you are living for. But I really doubt that people are just only living for a show on TV and that top priority in their lives is to find the answers on lost.THis didn't sit well with me, and this AM I knew why.

Lost is not a TV show. Lost is an extraordinary powerful epic production, so far better than anything ever attempted, in my memory.

The USA (at least) is constantly BOMBARDED with INSANITY in entertainment and advertising and politics, etc. We are a pehnomenally LOST nation, in that anyhting wholesome or plain or likeable about us has pretty much evaporated. We are LOST.

The show is, I hope, a deep deep deep wisdom type teaching tool, and will make a profound imapct on the consciousness of viewers, and there are the DVD's which could find their way into practically every home. If the Lost producers get it right, find a message that can transform the world, make EVERYONE realize that there are no "others", that the labels and identities we wear are ALL subsets of the one and same thing, we are ALL the universe.

Tell the producers and writers and actors and all the people that (I am sure) have given their hearts minds souls and lives for this epic awesome wonder, tell them it's just a TV show, and then duck.

[notsolost42]

THis didn't sit well with me, and this AM I knew why.

Lost is not a TV show. Lost is an extraordinary powerful epic production, so far better than anything ever attempted, in my memory.

The USA (at least) is constantly BOMBARDED with INSANITY in entertainment and advertising and politics, etc. We are a pehnomenally LOST nation, in that anyhting wholesome or plain or likeable about us has pretty much evaporated. We are LOST.

The show is, I hope, a deep deep deep wisdom type teaching tool, and will make a profound imapct on the consciousness of viewers, and there are the DVD's which could find their way into practically every home. If the Lost producers get it right, find a message that can transform the world, make EVERYONE realize that there are no "others", that the labels and identities we wear are ALL subsets of the one and same thing, we are ALL the universe.

Tell the producers and writers and actors and all the people that (I am sure) have given their hearts minds souls and lives for this epic awesome wonder, tell them it's just a TV show, and then duck.

Wow. Lost is a brilliant television show and money making machine. TPTB are laughing all the way to the bank. I think you are taking it way too seriously. It is fantasy. Science fiction fantasy.

[New Age Messiah]

I'm not personally taking "it" seriously.

I take the course of society and the world seriously, though, and right now, there is NOTHING preventing us, or even slowing us, from following the course humans have ALWAYS followed up to now.

Wars wars and more wars, and now we have nukes and many many people are very insane about their CONCEPT based hate, and it's VERY scary.

Dharma, Namaste, Richard Alpert, etc., I hope that all of these names are hints at the deeper motivation of the writers.

If a person wanted to produce a money making machine, they would open a McDonald's or make porno. Lost is a noble casue produced by noble people for noble purposes, I think.