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370662
04-21-2009, 11:13 PM
hey guys i posted this on general discusssion but no one seems to talk serious lost on there hehe sooo

it just occurred to me that Mr Friendly told jack, kate etc that walt was 'very special', and they [the others] kidnapped him to do some tests.
Perhaps this is similar to what happened to locke? (as he told richard alpert he was the 'leader of the others' and then richard went to young locke to do a test)
If this is true then does that mean a future walt could have appeared to richard/the others, similar to locke?

beachblinkette
04-21-2009, 11:40 PM
hey guys i posted this on general discusssion but no one seems to talk serious lost on there hehe sooo

it just occurred to me that Mr Friendly told jack, kate etc that walt was 'very special', and they [the others] kidnapped him to do some tests.
Perhaps this is similar to what happened to locke? (as he told richard alpert he was the 'leader of the others' and then richard went to young locke to do a test)
If this is true then does that mean a future walt could have appeared to richard/the others, similar to locke?
They took blood from Walt, and asked Michael if he had ever seen Walt in some place he was not supposed to be--(or something like that). Bea Klugh seemed very interested in Walt. There were discussions on this forum about Bea Klugh possibly being related to Walt's mom and speculation over whether of not Walt's mother could have been on the island at some time. She died of cancer, like Mile's mother. Kate's mom, Rose, and Juliet's sister also had cancer.
In the Middle Kingdom, Egyptians invaded Nubia---Nubians are dark skinned. Is Walt somehow related to the Egyptian culture? ???? Where did his powers come from?

chester
04-21-2009, 11:43 PM
There does seem to be a connection between Locke and Walt. Right from the first ep. I think there was more to that secret than just having been in a wheelchair...

vonnie
04-21-2009, 11:47 PM
Interesting, I never thought about the cancer connection. Rose had cancer too. Could it be the others knew their next leader would be on the flight 815 and they were thinking it might be Walt? Oh my gosh, I'm talking like it really happened in real life!!!

LostInSpaceTime
04-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Ben also had cancer

VeraLynn
04-22-2009, 02:10 AM
I wonder how the others knew that Walt was so special that he could appear in places he wasn't at, and what the implications of that are. Maybe something to do with having independent control of time travel? Shannon saw him in the jungle while the others still had him, and Locke saw taller Walt...right? Any other instances?

I am afraid that TPTB will write off Walt completely and hope we just forget about him. Locke didn't try at all to bring Walt back, and his reason sounded kind of lame.

smthng2dowthlost
04-22-2009, 02:22 AM
Killing those birds kinda makes him special. I was always interested in the fact that ben said we got more than we bargained for with walt. Like he was too powerful or couldn't be brainwashed or something. Especially weird since ben was about the same age in 1977. Like ben passed the test and walt didn't. But does that mean widmore ben locke have those kinda powers too?

singular
04-22-2009, 02:34 AM
A little off topic but.. does anyone know where I can watch the 'mobisode'? where Walt is in room 23? Or any of the 'mobisodes' for that matter; I've never seen them..

Hurley eats the baby
04-22-2009, 03:04 AM
Hi Singular. The mobisodes are all over youtube, or on the Season 4 special features disc.

hutsunuwu84
04-22-2009, 04:16 AM
I am afraid that TPTB will write off Walt completely and hope we just forget about him. Locke didn't try at all to bring Walt back, and his reason sounded kind of lame.

I dont think they are going to just right Walt out. He has a certain special significance to the island that I think we will find out more about in season 6. Yeah Lockes excuse was kinda lame but I think that was meant as a kind of misdirection. Most of the watchers have written Walt off and will be surprised when he reappears

Frolas
04-22-2009, 05:25 AM
The character is sure to eventualy reappear, its just a matter of What will happend When?

notsolost42
04-22-2009, 06:07 AM
Walt has great significance to the island. All of the second generation does. In the DVD set, I fogot which season, they have the cut scense. There is one scene that shows Ben being approached by Bea Klugh. She tells Ben that Walt is too powerful and no one wants to go near him. They are where room 23 is. They walk outside talking as Bea show Ben something. You see that all of the windows on the building are boarded up. They walk down a staircase on the side of the building. Bea points out a huge pile of dead birds. Birds that have run smack into the boarded window of Room 23 where Walt is. Remember the first season when Walt was coloring his picture of a bird and what happened? Same thing. Now, birds have these little electromagnetic finders in their brains that guildes them when they fly. So, Walt is able to put out such a strong EM signal that he attracks birds. Walt is also psychic. That's why Bea asked if Mike had seen Walt in places that he shouldn't have been. Because Walt is able to astral project. The Others were very interested in his powers but scared to death of him at the same time. That's why they gave him back to Mike so easily and told them they oculd leave.

I don't see anything that similar to Locke other than the drawings he made as a child. But, they still may reveal more.

Frolas
04-22-2009, 06:53 AM
Mmm, That all sounds very interesting but do you think they will follow up EVERYTHING they have?

singular
04-22-2009, 07:59 AM
Hi Singular. The mobisodes are all over youtube, or on the Season 4 special features disc.

Ah goody, thanks for the info! The mobisodes aren't on my zone 4 season 4 set :|

JfromtheD
04-23-2009, 01:26 PM
Walt has great significance to the island. All of the second generation does. In the DVD set, I fogot which season, they have the cut scense. There is one scene that shows Ben being approached by Bea Klugh. She tells Ben that Walt is too powerful and no one wants to go near him. They are where room 23 is. They walk outside talking as Bea show Ben something. You see that all of the windows on the building are boarded up. They walk down a staircase on the side of the building. Bea points out a huge pile of dead birds. Birds that have run smack into the boarded window of Room 23 where Walt is. Remember the first season when Walt was coloring his picture of a bird and what happened? Same thing. Now, birds have these little electromagnetic finders in their brains that guildes them when they fly. So, Walt is able to put out such a strong EM signal that he attracks birds. Walt is also psychic. That's why Bea asked if Mike had seen Walt in places that he shouldn't have been. Because Walt is able to astral project. The Others were very interested in his powers but scared to death of him at the same time. That's why they gave him back to Mike so easily and told them they oculd leave.

I don't see anything that similar to Locke other than the drawings he made as a child. But, they still may reveal more.

This quote has done something for that the writers, the episodes, and anyone else hasn't been able to do...
ACTUALLY PEAK MY INTEREST IN WALT! Thanks. Seriously.

(That leaves me with only ONE annoying little kid, Aaron)

jessejames
04-23-2009, 05:06 PM
i also think walt will be coming back, maybe in season 6. i also think walt gave us a glimpse into whats coming if not in this season than the next season, remember when walt told locke he's been having dreams about him and that he saw him back on the island in a suit surrounded by ppl with guns that wanted to hurt him. Well locke is back on the island in a suit ! and now the rest of the 316 passengers are now armed ! hmmm?

Chronos
04-23-2009, 05:18 PM
I wonder how the others knew that Walt was so special that he could appear in places he wasn't at, and what the implications of that are. Maybe something to do with having independent control of time travel? Shannon saw him in the jungle while the others still had him, and Locke saw taller Walt...right? Any other instances?

I think that we will find out that some of these appearances by Walt are actually manifestations of the Island's Monster (i.e. Smokey). I'm not arguing that Walt isn't special or doesn't have powers... but I think that in some cases, like the ones you refer to here, what we've seen is not Walt.

The writers had a significant dilemma with Walt in that the young man who plays him (Malcom David Kelley) did a lot of growing up between seasons 1 and 2. Thus, it made it difficult to explain how, in the span of 3 months on Island, he grows up a full year. Therefore they had to get him off the show.

Ever wonder why the O6 spent 3 years off-island... why Sawyer & Co have been 3 years in the 70's? I think your answer is to let the timeline on the show catch up to Walt :)

I'm sure we'll see more of him.

VeraLynn
04-23-2009, 06:59 PM
Ever wonder why the O6 spent 3 years off-island... why Sawyer & Co have been 3 years in the 70's? I think your answer is to let the timeline on the show catch up to Walt :)

I'm sure we'll see more of him.

Haha...yes, it is mighty convenient.

notsolost42
04-23-2009, 07:43 PM
This quote has done something for that the writers, the episodes, and anyone else hasn't been able to do...
ACTUALLY PEAK MY INTEREST IN WALT! Thanks. Seriously.

(That leaves me with only ONE annoying little kid, Aaron)

Thanks, I have the same kind of feeling that they'll do a similar thing for Aaron. I think the second generation, if it's really only the second and it may be very, very significant. I say it may not be the second generation because we have Christian floating around the island, Jack and Claire and the Aaron. He may actually be third generation! Unless, of course grandpa Joe surfaces again! Then, it is definitly the Shephard bloodline!

Panda
04-23-2009, 08:27 PM
I am afraid that TPTB will write off Walt completely and hope we just forget about him. Locke didn't try at all to bring Walt back, and his reason sounded kind of lame.

I can't remember what the reason was why Locke didn't bring Walt back to the Island. Can you tell me? us?

I was thinking that he may already suffer the Ben/Widmore decease ...afraid to lose the position of being the leader of the Island....And all because it just starts for him and he knows now that it isn't forever....:) So Walt will come on his own when the time is right. And meanwhile he wants to enjoy is "other leader life" without being confronted with the one who will follow him up daily ;)

Hurley eats the baby
04-25-2009, 12:38 AM
I can't remember what the reason was why Locke didn't bring Walt back to the Island. Can you tell me? us?

I was thinking that he may already suffer the Ben/Widmore decease ...afraid to lose the position of being the leader of the Island....And all because it just starts for him and he knows now that it isn't forever....:) So Walt will come on his own when the time is right. And meanwhile he wants to enjoy is "other leader life" without being confronted with the one who will follow him up daily ;)

John didn't invite Walt back because he told Abaddon that the kid had been through enough. I also think John was a bit flustered, as always, when it came to explaining what happened to Michael. John probably felt sorry for him.

I wonder if John thought Walt was hitting on him when he said "I've been having dreams about you". Michael was always suspicious, after all: the next Lost supercouple!

Seriously, I would bet that we will see Walt again. If the writers were done with him, they wouldn't keep bringing him back now and then.

mcgarnigle
04-25-2009, 01:40 AM
I think that john locke is meant to take over richard alpert's role on the island and that the reason he is connected to walt/aaron is b/c walt is the one or possibly aaron who is meant to take over the leadership role widmore/linus have assumed int he past. whatcha think?

Hurley eats the baby
04-25-2009, 03:18 AM
I think that john locke is meant to take over richard alpert's role on the island and that the reason he is connected to walt/aaron is b/c walt is the one or possibly aaron who is meant to take over the leadership role widmore/linus have assumed int he past. whatcha think?

I think this is certainly possible, a good a theory as any. I have a funny feeling that Richard isn't going anywhere though. Then again, I could have sworn that Locke wasn't the person in the coffin and guess what?

Simon Blackrock
04-25-2009, 06:33 PM
i think Walt , like Charlotte and Miles, will be drawn back to the island.
Or widmore will bring him back. We know Abbadon was mad at John for not getting him on board.
I think and hope Walt will be very important character by the end of this show. And him and vincent have to reunite! He didnt give Vinnie to Sharron for ever! Just to help comfort her for the loss of Boone.
Like how Vincent comforted him when his mom died. Interesting to note is John in season 1 tells a story about this woman who blamed a death on herself.But a dog appeared and comforted her for 5 years until she died.It may have been a golden lab i cant remember!

tpbaxter
04-25-2009, 06:58 PM
I could be wrong here, but I got the feeling the writers were bringing closure to Walt's character and story by bringng him up that last time in New York. I think people have been asking about him so much that they couldn't just ignore him, so saying that 'the boy's been through enough' was a way to close out his story. they kind of left the door open for more walt i guess, so i could be wrong. either way, i definitely think Walt is FULL OF IT!

swaded420
04-25-2009, 06:59 PM
i think Walt , like Charlotte and Miles, will be drawn back to the island.
Or widmore will bring him back. We know Abbadon was mad at John for not getting him on board.
I think and hope Walt will be very important character by the end of this show. And him and vincent have to reunite! He didnt give Vinnie to Sharron for ever! Just to help comfort her for the loss of Boone.
Like how Vincent comforted him when his mom died. Interesting to note is John in season 1 tells a story about this woman who blamed a death on herself.But a dog appeared and comforted her for 5 years until she died.It may have been a golden lab i cant remember!

I remember this, too. John said that his adoptive mother's daughter died, (can't remember how) and she was upset and guilt-stricken about it for a long time. One day, a golden retriever (might've been a golden lab, can't remember that either, I gotta go back and watch that) wandered into the house, sat down in front of her, and just stared at her or something, and stayed with her until she died as well, and then it just left. I kinda thought that was Vincent, but didn't Brian get Vincent as a puppy? Did Vincent swim across the ocean to comfort Locke's adoptive mother?! Ha. Just kidding.

Simon Blackrock
04-25-2009, 07:20 PM
haha maybe, but more than likely he time traveled and ended up swimming across the ocean in the 70's to comfort her.;)