"the story of the Oceanic 6" waste of time?

[LOSTLOST]

For those who watched tonights epsiode, what did you think? I thought it was a pretty cool refresher, it beats them not showing anything.

[notsolost42]

It put me to sleep. Tell me, whose perspective was that supposed to be from? The whole build up was that it was a different perspective. I didn't get it at all!

[racerx]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ Ditto.

[LincolnEcho06]

I watched it unfortunately. Thankfully I taped it so I could fast-forward through commercials. I didn't think it was that great. I wonder if Claire will pop up in season 5 or 6. I've been rewatching season 2 and Claire or Emilie de Raven looks older in that recap compared to season 2; still okay. I would have rather seen or heard the actors do the recap and maybe share some insight as to their life on island of Hawaii. I keep finding myself asking how or why things will happen and I'm at a loss for clues or "easter eggs". I think the whole reason this site was down was so the writers could get some ideas, hopefully they use my Hurely as Luke Skywalker in a dream sequence idea. Either that or Desmond forgot to push the button and it knocked out this site.

[tpbaxter]

It put me to sleep. Tell me, whose perspective was that supposed to be from? The whole build up was that it was a different perspective. I didn't get it at all!

I think the new perspective was that they were trying to tell the story in linear time, without skipping around in the form of flashbacks/flashforwards/time travel.

Which seems dumb. That's the entire style of this show. Love it or hate it that's the artists chosen form of expression. ABC is also ordering the stuff on their site in chronological order now right? i think the jumping around stuff is confusing for some people, and abc is trying to subvert the artists by explaining the show the way they want to in order to get more viewers?

[notsolost42]

I think the new perspective was that they were trying to tell the story in linear time, without skipping around in the form of flashbacks/flashforwards/time travel.

Which seems dumb. That's the entire style of this show. Love it or hate it that's the artists chosen form of expression. ABC is also ordering the stuff on their site in chronological order now right? i think the jumping around stuff is confusing for some people, and abc is trying to subvert the artists by explaining the show the way they want to in order to get more viewers?

But I thought it did still skip, just not as much.

[New Age Messiah]

I think it was extremely intelligent commercially. Tons of people have very little clue what the show is about. Figure 20% of the audience on any given night is a Lost virgin, and it's really not interesting if you haven't followed it.

So this recap gave tons of people enough info to follow the remainder of the episodes. It was startling to someone who's never seen the show or only seen it once or twice. I thought they did an extrmely good job summarizing.

[MagicoA]

For those who watched tonights epsiode, what did you think? I thought it was a pretty cool refresher, it beats them not showing anything.
seriously rather than no LOST

I think the new perspective was that they were trying to tell the story in linear time, without skipping around in the form of flashbacks/flashforwards/time travel.

Which seems dumb. That's the entire style of this show. Love it or hate it that's the artists chosen form of expression. ABC is also ordering the stuff on their site in chronological order now right? i think the jumping around stuff is confusing for some people, and abc is trying to subvert the artists by explaining the show the way they want to in order to get more viewers?
right and i thought that was good it was just to have things clarified and easier to figure out or maybe the oceanic 6 or part of that storyline will be a big part of the next(considering its a desmond centric and hes back on land)
and that thing about new viewers to understand is another reason 4 it my dad even asked why it was just the narraration and said "are they tryin to get some more people on board" which he had a pt with so in my head i was like maybe but its not whose perspective rly its put the oceanic 6 IN perspective

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it seemed pretty stupid, even for a recap episode.

I read somewhere else that it was the guy who plays Richard who narrated it, but I didn't notice.

I wonder, though...they mentioned that it was Charles who made the fake plane crash. Is this actually canon? Or was it just ABC that made this recap?

[LissaMarie]

It put me to sleep. Tell me, whose perspective was that supposed to be from? The whole build up was that it was a different perspective. I didn't get it at all!

Maybe it was the voice of.............nah. Nevermind.:o

[MagicoA]

Maybe it was the voice of.............nah. Nevermind.:o
let me guess,jacob?

[losttime]

I am not going to quote anyone but I dont agree with the people who said that it was good to show it in chronological order. There was nothing new in tonights recap that any Lost fan doesnt already know. And for the people think that it helped those who never watch the show get an understanding of it, i find that hard to believe. Its made sense to those fans who watched it because we have been following the story of Lsot all along and when they showed it to us it was understandable. I dont see many new watchers to Lost having a single inkling to what the hell is going on in the show and would probably be just as Lost if they watch next weeks episode than if they never saw this weeks recap

[New Age Messiah]

I dont see many new watchers to Lost having a single inkling to what the hell is going on in the show and would probably be just as Lost if they watch next weeks episode than if they never saw this weeks recapIf I had never seen the show, and I watched that recap, I would want to watch the show. That's why they aired it, I think, so more people would watch the show, not so more people would know what is going on.

It's expensive to make Lost, times are tough. They need more viewers, ratings aren't that great. Good decision, good quality, no beef.

[wiley]

If I had never seen the show, and I watched that recap, I would want to watch the show. That's why they aired it, I think, so more people would watch the show, not so more people would know what is going on.

It's expensive to make Lost, times are tough. They need more viewers, ratings aren't that great. Good decision, good quality, no beef.

I have to agree. If I try and recruit someone to watch the show, I sound like I'm describing a cartoon. This recap explains it a lot better.

[notsolost42]

If I had never seen the show, and I watched that recap, I would want to watch the show. That's why they aired it, I think, so more people would watch the show, not so more people would know what is going on.

It's expensive to make Lost, times are tough. They need more viewers, ratings aren't that great. Good decision, good quality, no beef.

And it's not really that important anymore because they are contracted to do six seasons. Ratings are important but not for the same reasons. They can not be cancelled before season six is done. And bbesides that, they did a recap to stall and get the current fans psyched for next weeks 100th episode during sweeps week. They want to pump up the audience for sweeps.

[New Age Messiah]

Yeah, by "they" I meant ABC making the decision based on ratings. Producers probably were needing more time to air next epi, and rather than leave a blank week or do a re-run, they said (ABC said) give us a recap type deal designed to bring in new viewers... Thanks

[IronMaiden]

I didn't care for it all that much. I' fairly new here and since I've been on this board, I've been watching episode after episode of the last season. So, it;s safe to say that I;ve seen every episode of this last season a rediculous amount of times........this LOST special was basically a recap of this last season. I was saying the dialogue together with thecharacters...lol.

However, someone who's not a LOST nut I'm sure would have enjoyed it!

[NOIDEAWHATSGOINGON]

Complete Wast Of Time. I Fell Like I Was Scammed. Can't Wait Til Next Week.

[Chelebella]

It did seem to answer a few lingering questions - Did Widmore plant the fake plane crash? Yes. Is Eloise Hawking Daniel Faraday's mom? Yes. Honestly, I felt a little let down being handed the answers to those mysteries in a summary episode instead of as a part of the plot in a show. (Yes, I know many people already "knew" those things, but just as many were not quite sure due to the way these issues were handled).

Other than that, for a regular watcher, it was pretty boring.

[LostFreak21]

So did Widmore fake the crash with the recreated people as the real 815? What I am trying to say is with the 316 people they had to recreate as best they could the original 815 so it would work. Was that what Widmore was trying to do, recreate with his fake 815?

[Chelebella]

It seems more likely that Widmore was just trying to convince people not to look for 815.

[LostFreak21]

But why? Who would these people be? Such a big thing to do. So do you think it was Eliose he was trying to fool?

[ortrules]

And it's not really that important anymore because they are contracted to do six seasons. Ratings are important but not for the same reasons. They can not be cancelled before season six is done. And bbesides that, they did a recap to stall and get the current fans psyched for next weeks 100th episode during sweeps week. They want to pump up the audience for sweeps.

I don't know about this. I think if the show really did poorly enough, regardless of the contract, ABC would just cut their loses and end it early, or earlier. If the show really did poorly, I wouldn't be surprised to see season 6 cut from 17 episodes to 10, or something like that. As much as I'd like to hope Lost is untouchable until the end, it's really not. If they lose enough viewers that airing the show is no longer profitable, someone will figure that they can still pay everyone their contracted amount, end the show early, and come out better than letting the show go on.

[JfromtheD]

That mess last night wouldn't bring in new viewers.
The only way to bring new viewers (besides us, dragging our friends in)
is to do what Scifi is doing... SHOWING THE DAMN EPISODES!



For about 2 minutes I did feel a different perspective:
They focused on the Jesus staue in the parking lot an AWFUL lot.

What lies in the shadow of the statue?
The Lampost?

Naaahh... nevermind. :rolleyes: :D

[bunnydixon]

Not seen it. Not sure if they will show it here to be honest. Not fussed for watching it.

[Chronos]

I'm ambivalent about the recap show.... yes, it was a rehash of stuff we've already seen. However, it was entertaining to see some old scenes again. Mostly, I felt that it did put into words (by the narrator) some things that we already knew or have speculated on.

Take the Widmore vs Ben debate about who planted the fake 815 wreckage. I think any argument against Widmore doing it is moot at this point. The reason I state this is that the narrator used the word "staged". The intent was to show the world that Oceanic 815 had no survivors, thus curtailing any possible efforts to carry out a rescue mission. The Kahana's mission was not one of rescue, as we know. It was to extract Ben from the Island. The recap made it fairly obvious that Jack strongly believed that revealing to the world that there were more survivors would certainly encourage whoever sent the Kahana to initiate another deadly mission. We know he is mistaken in this regard, Widmore is only interested in Ben and the Island, but he did not know that when he convinced the rest of the O6 to lie.

Another discussion I remember is regarding how short-lived Locke's off-Island mission seemed to be ("The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham"). The recap outlined clearly how Jack was doing rather well until he saw his father in the Lobby of the hospital. Then he started freaking out, mistrusting Kate. Then Locke shows up and he really loses it, starts drinking, doing prescription drugs, letting his beard grow out and taking flights back and forth over the Pacific hoping for a crash. This would indicate that Locke's time off-island was more than merely a few days... it must have been a few weeks or more.

Other items that were of interest to me that I had not noticed before:


When Ben turned the donkey wheel, he landed in Tunisia 10 months into the future.
Kate's big secret that made Jack mistrust her was that she was seeing Cassidy.
Sayid went to work for Ben as revenge for Nadia's death, which the recap indicated was caused by Ben himself.


I know... these are things that probably everyone else had not missed, but for me the recap was useful in this sense.

[evguy]

I'm ambivalent about the recap show.... yes, it was a rehash of stuff we've already seen. However, it was entertaining to see some old scenes again. Mostly, I felt that it did put into words (by the narrator) some things that we already knew or have speculated on.

Take the Widmore vs Ben debate about who planted the fake 815 wreckage. I think any argument against Widmore doing it is moot at this point. The reason I state this is that the narrator used the word "staged". The intent was to show the world that Oceanic 815 had no survivors, thus curtailing any possible efforts to carry out a rescue mission. The Kahana's mission was not one of rescue, as we know. It was to extract Ben from the Island. The recap made it fairly obvious that Jack strongly believed that revealing to the world that there were more survivors would certainly encourage whoever sent the Kahana to initiate another deadly mission. We know he is mistaken in this regard, Widmore is only interested in Ben and the Island, but he did not know that when he convinced the rest of the O6 to lie.

Another discussion I remember is regarding how short-lived Locke's off-Island mission seemed to be ("The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham"). The recap outlined clearly how Jack was doing rather well until he saw his father in the Lobby of the hospital. Then he started freaking out, mistrusting Kate. Then Locke shows up and he really loses it, starts drinking, doing prescription drugs, letting his beard grow out and taking flights back and forth over the Pacific hoping for a crash. This would indicate that Locke's time off-island was more than merely a few days... it must have been a few weeks or more.

Other items that were of interest to me that I had not noticed before:


When Ben turned the donkey wheel, he landed in Tunisia 10 months into the future.
Kate's big secret that made Jack mistrust her was that she was seeing Cassidy.
Sayid went to work for Ben as revenge for Nadia's death, which the recap indicated was caused by Ben himself.


I know... these are things that probably everyone else had not missed, but for me the recap was useful in this sense.

When did it say that? It showed him seeing the news on TV when he was at the Tunisian desert. He wasnt responsible at all......

[ortrules]

Take the Widmore vs Ben debate about who planted the fake 815 wreckage. I think any argument against Widmore doing it is moot at this point. The reason I state this is that the narrator used the word "staged". The intent was to show the world that Oceanic 815 had no survivors, thus curtailing any possible efforts to carry out a rescue mission. The Kahana's mission was not one of rescue, as we know. It was to extract Ben from the Island. The recap made it fairly obvious that Jack strongly believed that revealing to the world that there were more survivors would certainly encourage whoever sent the Kahana to initiate another deadly mission. We know he is mistaken in this regard, Widmore is only interested in Ben and the Island, but he did not know that when he convinced the rest of the O6 to lie.

I don't think this ends any debate. We could just as easily say that Ben "staged" the 815 crash to keep anyone from looking for 815 and finding the island. Everything you described about the intent being to show the world that Oceanic 815 had no survivors could just as easily apply to Ben wanting to keep people from finding the island.

[draftrnpitt]

the only thing I got out of it was that Richard killed Keamy, and therefore blew up the freighter, which influenced Ben to turn the wheel and yada yada. So maybe Richard is responsible for the island having to be moved. Sorry if this was already discussed months prior. Somewhat new here.

[Chronos]

I don't think this ends any debate. We could just as easily say that Ben "staged" the 815 crash to keep anyone from looking for 815 and finding the island. Everything you described about the intent being to show the world that Oceanic 815 had no survivors could just as easily apply to Ben wanting to keep people from finding the island.

True, but the recap stated that "Widmore staged" the wreckage.

[wiley]

the only thing I got out of it was that Richard killed Keamy, and therefore blew up the freighter, which influenced Ben to turn the wheel and yada yada. So maybe Richard is responsible for the island having to be moved. Sorry if this was already discussed months prior. Somewhat new here.

He shot him, but didn't kill him. Ben killed him a short while later.

[yokogleeton]

When did it say that? It showed him seeing the news on TV when he was at the Tunisian desert. He wasnt responsible at all......

Yeah, I thought the same. When Ben landed in Tunisia he went to the hotel and asked what the date was and confirmed the year. After doing so I thought he turned around and saw Sayid on the TV carting Nadia's casket, which means she was already dead when Ben arrived. Then he went and spied on Sayid, got caught, and the two started on their wacky adventures.

I think after Lost they should partner those two up as Sayid and Ben and have them travel the globe solving mysteries. I'd watch it.

[ortrules]

True, but the recap stated that "Widmore staged" the wreckage.

I didn't watch it, so this could be. But I take all the recap episodes with a grain of salt ever since the producers said the enhanced episode pop-ups shouldn't be considered canon. It could be that the recap is just claiming to what the show is hinting at more than providing a definitive answer.

[Bathsheba]

I didn't get much out of it, other than things like they actually confirmed that Eloise is Faraday's mother, which we all knew, but some speculated otherwise.

My dh, on the other hand, frequently falls asleep before the end of Lost (*gasp* I know, but he get up early and just can't seem to make it that long), so he saw things that he hadn't seen before.

I kind of felt jipped. I was hoping they'd have thrown in a little extra stuff that might have clued us in on a few more things.

[headscratch]

...one question that was bugging me was when are locke, ben and that set of folks from 316? They made it clear they are in the present (as of 2007) and that they are thirty years apart from the other 316 folks who are in 77. That seems to make it clear that the WHH thing is not true (or so I believe). I say this because when Ben and Sun arrived on the main island, there were signs from the former Dharma Initiative ("Recruiting Station or something to that effect) which means Ben and the others never took over the camp.

The other thing was when Desmond got shot. It hit the bag which I did not notice before. So either the bag or the contents inside saved Desmon by defelcting the bullet, or there was a reason he could not die like with Michael (remember he could not kill himslef).

Third, Miles visiting Desmond at the Dharma station. Miles did not seem think it would help to knock but he did and Desmond came out. Desmond never spoke about meeting anyone but the Dharma fellow he accidentally killed. He woke up in present day in bed with Penny with a memory of what happened on the island simultaneously, but in the past. Seemed his reality had changed immediately and he had memory of the change. Seems WHH is definitely not a rule and seems clear the past has indeed already changed.

And of course I do beleive the whole Widmore staged it thing is defintie which I don't think was clear prior.

So although a bit boring, at least it did firm up some answers for me.

However, I am ready for some more answers. Beginning to get a little annoying with all of the unanswered questions. We are almost at the end of Season 5 and it is starting to feel like it is being dragged out WAY too much. If they are losing viewers, lst night's episode would not make it better...they may have lost more.

[Richard_Cranium]

Just my opinion but I would of liked a BLOOPER episode better then what they showed last night.

[Looking4aSensibleEnding]

I didn't get much out of it, other than things like they actually confirmed that Eloise is Faraday's mother, which we all knew, but some speculated otherwise.

My dh, on the other hand, frequently falls asleep before the end of Lost (*gasp* I know, but he get up early and just can't seem to make it that long), so he saw things that he hadn't seen before.

I kind of felt jipped. I was hoping they'd have thrown in a little extra stuff that might have clued us in on a few more things.
You must not be in the Central timezone, sleeper's spouse.

I would rather have had any episode with captions (that we had not previously seen with captions). You never get captions unless they air the ep that way. I hope they show captioned episodes all summer!

[Hurley eats the baby]

I think for die-hard fans like us, it wasn't all that great. But I know some people I work with, who watch it but don't follow it real closely, really liked it a lot. It explained a lot for them that we already have guessed (like Michael being on the freighter last year).
Overall I enjoyed it. I wouldnt blame the writers if anyone didn't, blame ABC.

[BigL5000]

Yes it was. Boring.

[marrymejuliet]

Maybe it was the voice of.............nah. Nevermind.:o

you were gonna say Jacob, weren't you ;)

[LissaMarie]

Shhhhhhhhh. We don't say that out loud anymore! :)

[Looking4aSensibleEnding]

Shhhhhhhhh. We don't say that out loud anymore! :)
But am I allowed to say Voldemort here? I guess I really didn't say it, did I?

[etfrompo]

If we can't say the J name any more, we need a cover since He-whio-must-not-be-named is already taken. Maybe he-who-lives-in-a-cabin?