"Hi AARON!!!!"

[dano81818]

wow can honestly say i didnt see that one coming. what happened to claire?????

[TSOL1]

I saw it coming. I am going to go out on a limb and say Claire dies and somehow Jack feels responsible. Which is why he doesn't want to see Aaron when Kate asks him to stop by. He would be overwhelmed with guilt.

[Dzbabykel]

Oh YESSSS I totally knew it!!! Haha I feel so proud that I have the mind of those crazy writers LOL, such a great episode!! I wonder if Jack doesn't want to see Aaron because he found out that he's Claire's step brother so that would be his nephew and it brings back memories of Claire (if she did in fact die) or maybe seeing Aaron just brings back memories from the island in general?? WOW love this show.....oh yes and Sawyer looked yummy ;)

[Rain13]

People have been talking about Kate being Aaron's new mother for weeks now, I had even mistakenly thought that it had happened already until I got fully caught up tonight. I guess some of these spoilers are correct? I remember reading the 3.2 million dollars Miles offered Locke too, so clearly that's wasn't just a lucky guess.

Anyway, I think it's safe to say that Claire isn't one of the Oceanic 6 in light of this.

[Dzbabykel]

TSOL I like your theory better...that could be it, that Jack feels responsible for Claire's death, hmm?

[TSOL1]

TSOL I like your theory better...that could be it, that Jack feels responsible for Claire's death, hmm?

Your theory works too though. I forgot about jack and claire being related.

[islander]

wow can honestly say i didnt see that one coming. what happened to claire?????

i hope it's aaron. i couldn't handle seeing a pregnant kate running around the island. but if it's aaron, is he one of the O-6? i'd guess not.

[XmasDVD]

I had heard that she gets pushed into the water to her death after the baby is taken away. I'd guess Locke will be involved. When she said "Aaron" I yelled to my wife "YES! I knew it!"

LOL nice!!

[RynG78]

Oh it is Aaron. He is a good sleeper" And he was sleepin when she came home.

[dano81818]

well kate clearly doesnt hold him responsible.

and, i forgot momentarily that they are half-sibs, but i have to say i was not a huge fan of that plot development... just seemed a bit too contrived... oh well i guess thats why 13mm people don't watch a show that I wrote.. lol

[justjoe]

Woo hoo I called it! I feel so smart.

[TSOL1]

i hope it's aaron. i couldn't handle seeing a pregnant kate running around the island. but if it's aaron, is he one of the O-6? i'd guess not.

I wouldnt count him as one of the O-6 even though he was technically on the plane. :)

[TSOL1]

well kate clearly doesnt hold him responsible.



Just because he feels responsible doesnt mean he really is.

[imascootinspook]

Sorry but I have a question.....did Kate say Aaron or Eric?

[TSOL1]

AAron!!!!!!!

[missjulie]

Sooo... how does Kate explain having a baby on the island? I... I don't know how they're going to work that one out. Unless she admits that he's not hers but its now his legal guardian?

I don't know.. that's got me confused.

[rabbitgem]

Hey, just another thought. Why does Claire have to be dead? How many shows have we seen where a mother shoves her child at someone leaving and says, "Take my child." We know Jack wants to return to the island. Surely not for sentimental reasons. More likely because there are still some losties there to rescue. One of them may be Claire. Kate on the other hand apparently considers him her child now so the last thing she wants to do is find Claire. Plausible?

[mahalo_dude]

Interesting development! Claire either dies or stays on the island. But my guess she dies, given how Jack feels.

Unless....

...Kate's son Aaron is another child entirely from Claire's son Aaron. He could have been named after the first Aaron. I doubt it, though. I'm just typing as I think.

[dano81818]

i watched it 3x and it sounded like aaron to me, and the crazy cutaway music seemed to indicate a big twist had just taken place

[islander]

and kate can't let her mom see aaron because he looks nothing like kate.

[Dzbabykel]

Hey, just another thought. Why does Claire have to be dead? How many shows have we seen where a mother shoves her child at someone leaving and says, "Take my child." We know Jack wants to return to the island. Surely not for sentimental reasons. More likely because there are still some losties there to rescue. One of them may be Claire. Kate on the other hand apparently considers him her child now so the last thing she wants to do is find Claire. Plausible?

True but I seriously doubt Claire would give up her baby to stay on the island....unless Desmond has some vision telling Claire if she gets on it she will die so they will leave and come back for her (haha I'm kidding)

[dano81818]

i doubt kate's kid is a diff aaron... he's the spitting image of claire

[TSOL1]

Hey, just another thought. Why does Claire have to be dead? How many shows have we seen where a mother shoves her child at someone leaving and says, "Take my child." We know Jack wants to return to the island. Surely not for sentimental reasons. More likely because there are still some losties there to rescue. One of them may be Claire. Kate on the other hand apparently considers him her child now so the last thing she wants to do is find Claire. Plausible?

She could still be on the island, but i just dont see a mother giving up her baby especially to kate, if she is fine and just choosing to stay on the island. I dont care how many movies I have seen where that happens.

[russ99]

I'm still torn as to whether or not there are still living survivors on the island when the "O6" leave. I really can't see the rest of them of them dying.

So Claire could be alive and still on the island, and Kate just stole her kid, which could be why Jack wants no part of anything with him.

I don't think there will be any choice involved when they do leave.

Also could explain why at the end of S3, why Kate doesn't want to go back. Maybe also the "him" Kate was talking about going back to was Aaron.

[missjulie]

I think Claire gave her baby to Kate because it was too dangerous on the island. Just my thoughts. If I was Claire and the end conclusion was my baby going away... I would do it because there was no other way. Maybe Claire can't leave the island (don't ask why, I have no idea!) but Aaron had to?

Yay! I love this show. :D

[justjoe]

That's absolutely the "he" she was talking about. Why would Jack feel guilty or uncomfortable unless Aaron was acquired by nefarious means.

[Dzbabykel]

Oh absolutely which is why in the beginning they kept making the "HE" obvious to us. And whoever said it might be Kate's baby with the name Aaron no way, look at that blonde head....thats def Claire's Aaron haha :)

[mahalo_dude]

I think Claire gave her baby to Kate because it was too dangerous on the island. Just my thoughts. If I was Claire and the end conclusion was my baby going away... I would do it because there was no other way. Maybe Claire can't leave the island (don't ask why, I have no idea!) but Aaron had to?

Yay! I love this show. :D

That's plausible. Kate is a long-term babysitter. She may not be good with kids now, but it seems like she's adapted pretty well.

[mahalo_dude]

Oh absolutely which is why in the beginning they kept making the "HE" obvious to us. And whoever said it might be Kate's baby with the name Aaron no way, look at that blonde head....thats def Claire's Aaron haha :)


yeah I know. I contradicted myself when I said that earlier.:o

[justjoe]

If it was Kate's baby it would be way younger since at this point they had only been rescued for like a year.

[skatertsol]

Oh it is Aaron. He is a good sleeper" And he was sleepin when she came home.
hey good call....they never put anything in that's not full of meaning right?

[Puga]

aaron might have aged quickly like walt did.

[Dzbabykel]

aaron might have aged quickly like walt did.

NICE point, we know Aaron is apparently "special" like Walt as well...I like it :)

[Rain13]

I don't think Walt aging quickly was intended as part of the storyline. Let's not forget that they admit trying to hide Walt's growth (he hit puberty in real life) when he was included in flashbacks after he had left the show. It wouldn't have been possible for them to present him as having grown normally because he grew for 4 years that actually went by in the life of the actor and not the 30 days that went by in his character's.

[Dzbabykel]

Yes and I agree HOWEVER if they didn't want to tie his aging into the show, they wouldn't have had Locke and Sawyer multiple times refer to Walt as "TALLER ghost Walt".....this means in the show he is ALSO older.

[skatertsol]

good call dz I thought that, too. 'Specially if they knew they were going to continue this show for several seasons, it's been a factor since the start!

[Octopod]

Something here just doesnt add up.6 people made it back from the island we know.8 people according to the lie survived the plane crash but two of them died trying to make it from the water, right?Who does Kate say knocked her up?Obviously not Jack.Im going to assume not hurly though you never know and i think its apparent the baby isnt Sayids.

[imsolost]

im just not sure thats is claires baby, i think jack would want to see him no matter what. maybe maybe claire and aaron dies and kate feels responsible so she names her baby aaron, which is sawyers. that would make jack stay away for sure. also when she told saywer she wasnt having a baby it seemed like she wasnt telling the truth. i dont know but that being claires baby just seems to easy of an answer, for lost

[Octopod]

If it is Claires Arron then i think we know one more of the oceanic 6 now.Otherwise she had the baby after they got back.

[robert]

Is it just me or didn't Aaron's face look like he had downs syndrome.

[dano81818]

no way, that kid is claire's aaron... imo

[Lostfan1]

She could still be on the island, but i just dont see a mother giving up her baby especially to kate, if she is fine and just choosing to stay on the island. I dont care how many movies I have seen where that happens.

Mabey Claire and Jack found out they were siblings and Claire gave her baby to Jack (Aaron's nephew) because she feels Aaron is safe with him.
Then Jack could give him to Kate because he dosn't want to take care of him.
That might be the reason that Jack dosn't want to go see him.

...or...

Claire's dead

[naclu]

aaron might have aged quickly like walt did.

Oooooh.... that is an interesting thought!!

[naclu]

Is it just me or didn't Aaron's face look like he had downs syndrome.

I thought that, too, when the camera first showed him... when it got closer, though, it didn't look that way to me anymore... Might have just been a bad camera angle???

[robert]

I agree with you.

[robert]

No way. If she had given Jack her baby, he would take care of him. That's just the way Jack is.

[naclu]

I want to think that Claire is still alive. I think that next season will probably have them going back to the island or something and we will see her again... If not, then I believe that she died trying to get off the island... in a helicopter crash or on the freighter or something...

I say this because remember Desmond's vision of Charlie dying and then seeing Claire and the baby getting on a helicopter - which is why Charlie had no second thoughts about swimming down to that station knowing that he would die.

[Olecrowfan]

This whole thing has gotten me confused. Kate obviously wasn't pregnant when she got to the Island, we all know that. Is everybody in the world dumb enough to believe she got pregnant and had a kid while on the Island? I can't seem to figure that one out. Unless. Unless. Are they there even longer than we know?
this whole damn thing confuses the **** outta me. It takes Nine months to have a kid, and "the real world" believes Kate had a kid, mean while saving lives and rescuing people? I don't buy it. there's something we aren't seeing or something we haven't been told.

[Archangel-Player]

No way. If she had given Jack her baby, he would take care of him. That's just the way Jack is.

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Alright. Let's say that it's Clair's Arron. Pretty obvious that it is. But you know LOSt they always throw in something that seems obviouse when it's something else all together.

But in order for Claire to have given up Arron it would have had to be a must have situation. Like I want survive my woonds . Take him please" or "There's only enough room for one more. " Or as Ben said. Have you forgoten what these people did to you Sayid? You as in the survivers of 815 all together. Do you want to rescue them? Which means to me that the other survivers are being heald on that island . Which Some how Arron was part of a bargin. Allow him to leave with Kate.

[Suecq]

Here is my 2 sense worth....I am thinking that Jack, Kate, SAwyer, Sayid, Hurly, Desmond - there is the 6 - (The powerful A team so to speak they always seem to be the ones involved in thick of things), end up getting in the helicopter and are going to find the "freighter" and come back for the others. Claire panicking gives Aaron to Kate just in case, they don't come back. It seems that the islands coordinates are all jumbled (most recent helicopter trip has not yet reached the freighter that Sayid, Desmond and Frank are in), so perhaps they (the A-team) finds the freighter, but could not get back to the island and this is why Jack feels so guilty (Aaron) because he could not save everyone (especially Claire).

[LockeFan]

Here is my 2 sense worth....I am thinking that Jack, Kate, SAwyer, Sayid, Hurly, Desmond - there is the 6 - (The powerful A team so to speak they always seem to be the ones involved in thick of things), end up getting in the helicopter and are going to find the "freighter" and come back for the others. Claire panicking gives Aaron to Kate just in case, they don't come back. It seems that the islands coordinates are all jumbled (most recent helicopter trip has not yet reached the freighter that Sayid, Desmond and Frank are in), so perhaps they (the A-team) finds the freighter, but could not get back to the island and this is why Jack feels so guilty (Aaron) because he could not save everyone (especially Claire).

I don't think Desmond is one of the O6...how could he be? He wasn't on the plane and in the real world they would have a manifest that wouldn't have Desmond's name on it...so they couldn't lie about him being on the plane.

[naclu]

But I do think that the part about Claire giving Aaron to Kate, just in case, is very plausible... As a matter of fact, that's what I thought first thing....

I think that the other losties are alive on the island still... I think that the O6 are being threatened to keep quite to protect them... I think that is why Hurly and Jack have both mentioned going back... so they can get them back... I think that they're having to wait for Sayid to get the people on the list first, though... I think that the guy who came to visit Hurly in the hospital is probably one of the ones on the list and he's trying to figure out if there are really more... Remember him asking Hurly if they were alive?

[mellypie]

wow - i totally agree with you, naclu. except for the waiting for sayid part. i'm not sure if everyone is in cahoots with ben OR if everyone knows what sayid is doing. it seems that in general, the o6 have not kept in close touch post-return.

i also think that most of the losties are still alive on the island. that's why hugo and jack are both interested in going back AND that's why, when talking to sayid, ben says something to the effect of, "if you want to keep your friends safe, blah blah."

[justme]

Everyone knows Aaron is special. What I want to know is why Kate asked the woman if she kept him away from the tv.

[LostandFound]

Everyone knows Aaron is special. What I want to know is why Kate asked the woman if she kept him away from the tv.


I'm guessing, her trial was all over the news and she didn't want Aaron to see what was going on. I suspect that Aaron is being sheltered from knowledge of the island and that Claire is his birth mother.

[justjoe]

Wait. Why is Aaron special?

[ortrules]

Ok, I think this is what really needs to be discussed:

In order for the Losties to pull off the lie that Kate is Aaron's mother, they would've had to have been on the island for quite some time. I'm pretty sure it would be public knowledge that when Kate got on the flight she was not pregnant, or at the very least, had just gotten pregnant. This means that the Losties need to be on the island for at least 7 months or more for Kate to "have a baby" plus added time to let the kid grow up a little bit because he wasn't a little baby anymore - he was probably at least 2 or 3. This means to pull off this lie, they would've had to have been on the island for at least a year or two. As of last weeks episode, they were only on the island for no more than 100 days.

[justjoe]

Do we know if the public is even aware that Kate has a baby?

[ortrules]

Wait, I just answered my own question!

The reason Kate didn't want her son to be brought up in the trial or show him to her mother is because everyone would discover how old the child was and that Aaron wasn't hers, thereby breaking up this lie they've all been telling about the rest of the losties.

[jacksnurse]

yeah...knew this one was coming....rite DZ....we were the only ones (almost anyway) that said it.....i agree with u too ortrules....think ur rite...shes trying to raise as if its hers cuz how will she explain the age....and they are acting like they were the only survivors from the beginning (besides the "2" that didn't make it)

[ozzydog]

Kate refered to him as "my son" a bunch of times which suggests to me that Claire is forever gone. As in dead. I also don't think Claire would give him away for any reason. I just can't figure out what's up with Jack. There is no apparent reason for him to have a problem with Kate raising Aaron. Especially if he had something to do with whatever happened to Claire.

[hollie425]

yea i called it before kate said anything!!!

[seagurl]

OK, SO THE BABY'S NAME IS AARRON?

1-CLAIRE'S AARON COULD BE KATE'S? WAS BLOND LIKE CLAIRE'S AARON- BUT KATES MUM HAS A BLOND AND ROUND FACE TOO, SO COULD BE GENETIC? -BUT THEN HE (AARON)WOULD BE KNOWN ABOUT BY EVERYONE WHY IS KAT SAYING TO EVERYONE "i HAVE A SON" THE BABY WOULD THEN ONE OF THE OCEANIC 6? RIGHT? THEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY JACK DOEN'T WANT TO SEE AARON AS IT IS HIS "NEPHEW"

2-kATE HAD SAWYERS BABY AND CALLED HIM AARON/ THERFORE BEING SAWYERS BABY, WHY JACK WONT GO SEE HIM.

3- KATE HAS SOME HOW AQUIRED SAWYERS BABY FROM THE WOMAN SAWYER CONNED IN THE FIRST AND SECOND SEASON FLASHBACKS AND ALSO WHY JACK WON'T BE INVOLVED WITH HER-HIM... POSSIBLE?
JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE? THO0UGHTS?

[LostFreak21]

I had heard that she gets pushed into the water to her death after the baby is taken away. I'd guess Locke will be involved. When she said "Aaron" I yelled to my wife "YES! I knew it!"

LOL nice!!

way to throw your spoiler in-

[silverana]

OK, SO THE BABY'S NAME IS AARRON?

1-CLAIRE'S AARON COULD BE KATE'S? WAS BLOND LIKE CLAIRE'S AARON- BUT KATES MUM HAS A BLOND AND ROUND FACE TOO, SO COULD BE GENETIC? -BUT THEN HE (AARON)WOULD BE KNOWN ABOUT BY EVERYONE WHY IS KAT SAYING TO EVERYONE "i HAVE A SON" THE BABY WOULD THEN ONE OF THE OCEANIC 6? RIGHT? THEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY JACK DOEN'T WANT TO SEE AARON AS IT IS HIS "NEPHEW"

2-kATE HAD SAWYERS BABY AND CALLED HIM AARON/ THERFORE BEING SAWYERS BABY, WHY JACK WONT GO SEE HIM.

3- KATE HAS SOME HOW AQUIRED SAWYERS BABY FROM THE WOMAN SAWYER CONNED IN THE FIRST AND SECOND SEASON FLASHBACKS AND ALSO WHY JACK WON'T BE INVOLVED WITH HER-HIM... POSSIBLE?
JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE? THO0UGHTS?

saywers baby with the women he conned was a girl

[jen81]

The 6 of spades in aaron's room at the end? that was one of the cards the two ppl from the freighter were playing with in the show... well not playing with..but when the girl from the freighter had three cards laid down and the guy was trying to remember which cards they were.

ok did that make sense at all?

[islander]

why is aaron special? just because he was born on the island?

also, based on the O-6 that we're aware of, kate's the only one who could possiblly care for aaron. and if kate's caring for aaron, sun must not have made it off the island. she would have been a better mom than kate.

[Yummy Yoghurt]

Sorry but I have a question.....did Kate say Aaron or Eric?

I heard Earn :)

[islander]

I heard Earn :)

i had to listen a couple times, but she says 'aaron' quickly.

[UnknownPoster]

Jack must not know Aaron is his nephew. I don't think that he would shun Aaron seeing the way Christian treated him, and the fact that Aaron has no father etc.

Also if Claire was alive wouldn't Jack give up his spot on the chopper for her? I say yes. He was so insistent that he would get all his people off. Unless it is not his choice who stays and who goes.

So Claire probably dies on the freighter, that way Desmond's prophecy is still fulfilled.
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[Bri]

Aaron is definatly the 5th of the Oceanic 6. In all the previews leading up to last night's show, it kept saying another Oceanic 6 would be revealed. No one else was revealed besides Aaron. The only thing that doesn't make sense is that Aaron wasn't technically a passanger on the flight, Claire was still preggers so could he really be considered an Oceanic 6?

[justjoe]

I don't remember seeing any previews that said they would reveal the fifth member of the O6. Numbers 5 and 6 are Sun and Jin.

[Kelli]

So, here is what I think.

I think that obviously the Oceanic 6 make some sort of deal (with the freighter folks possibly) to get off of the island - they will lie and pretend that there are no other survivors in order to gain freedom. That is why they are all constantly lying about the number of people who survived the crash. I think everyone else is still alive an well on the island, and that guilt, knowing that he sold out Claire and everyone else, is why Jack can't stand to look at Aaron. Every time Jack sees Aaron he is reminded of how he abandoned everyone. That is why he cracks and becomes a drug addict, he can't stand everyone calling him a hero when really he sold everyone out.

Also, who would really know that Kate wasn't pregnant at the time of the crash? The US Marshall is dead, and everyone else is already lying, why not one more lie - that Kate was pregnant.

I honestly believe that Claire gave Aaron to Kate because she knew it was his only chance to get off of the island.

[Kelli]

I don't remember seeing any previews that said they would reveal the fifth member of the O6. Numbers 5 and 6 are Sun and Jin.


Could be, and the reason Aaron isn't with Sun is because of this "deal" the six struck with whomever to gain their freedom, they couldn't admit that there were any other survivors of the crash, and obviously Aaron could not be passsed off as Sun's child.

[stargazer]

Aaron is definatly the 5th of the Oceanic 6. In all the previews leading up to last night's show, it kept saying another Oceanic 6 would be revealed. No one else was revealed besides Aaron. The only thing that doesn't make sense is that Aaron wasn't technically a passanger on the flight, Claire was still preggers so could he really be considered an Oceanic 6?

I think I heard some mention on the previews last week, too. Something about "another" Oceanic 6 being revealed. It doesn't make sense that Aaron would be one of them, but I wonder.

[jackchick]

Gee, does everything on this show have to have a theory! Guess that's why we're hooked. Mine is this: Kate has gotten Aaron by good or bad means and yes claims him as hers. I think Jack was unaware of this arrangement and he has been led to believe that the baby is Sawyers and that's his hesitancy. He just can't escape this guy. But I think there is a big problem about the age thing. This is a 3 year old no doubt. Gives greater creed to the "time slower on the island" idea.:cool:

[Foro777]

Is it just me or didn't Aaron's face look like he had downs syndrome.

lol at first i thought that was the twist, that her baby had downs syndrome... I was like..."O god no"....but that wasnt it :p

[Persephone]

I'm just not really feeling any of those theories. I don't think Claire would ever hand over Aaron, even in certain circumstances. I think think that this is tied to the psychic though, when claire goes to the psychic and he says not to let anyone else raise her kid? we all thought he meant the others? No, i think he meant kate. but I'm not sure why it would be a bad thing yet. I also am not thinking that it was a good reason why claire gave aaron up, something 'bad' had to have happened, but not because it was a "last chance" kind of thing.

I do want to believe the idea that they're keeping the baby quiet, but if that were the case then how would the lawyer know and how would her mom know if she hasn't spoken to her since before the crash? also, why would the lawyer want to bring in the baby? he obviously could talk, but what would he say in defense for her?

[kamokilla]

Doesn't anyone find it odd that Hurley Kate and jack all live in California even though none of them lived there pre-crash.

[monkeyface]

If time is moving slower on the island, who's to say that it hasn't been years back in the "real world?" That would be an easy explaination for why no one seems to question the baby. When Daniel finally received the payload, the clock was over 30 minutes off...

[Lostisamazing22]

Okay...here's my theory.....Originally, everyone was going to get off of the island, but only six people could go at one time. So, claire gave the baby to kate thinking she would come for him when she got off. Well, the six people to get off (the oceanic 6) said that they would come back for the other survivors. But they couldnt find the island after they left. So, kate just took the baby and adopted him, since she already wanted one.. Jack said that he didnt want to visit the aaron and kate a couple years later.... I think that's because jack found out that he had the same dad as claire, which made them brother and sister, so he wasnt ready to see his nephew.....

[Turnip Queen]

I don't think Claire is necessarily dead. I think that she may be one of the Oceanic 6, and in the same way people revert to the way they were before they crashed, she may have got off the island and reverted to the Claire who didn't want her baby and felt too pressured. I mean, when she's on the island, she has babysitters at hand all the time if she wants some personal time, and she had Charlie as a father figure for the baby, but now he's dead, and if she was thrown back in the real world, out on her own, where you need money as currency rather than food or medical supplies, she may not have been able to cope.

BUT that being said, I have a horrible suspicion she is dead, and think that it's not coincidental that she and Charlie who were looking after the baby would die and leave the baby alone. It definitely looks like it's Claire's baby that Kate is minding, it looks like her! I hope she doesn't die, that'd be too sad!

[FanFiltration]

Aaron looked to be about 3 1/2 - 4 years old in that episode, and Kate's mother was saying she has been sick for 6 years. looks like we will be on the ilsland for a number of years before the 6 return to the main land.

[justjoe]

The baby is more like 2 1/2 or 3. Jack knows what Aaron looks like so I find it hard to believe that he would think it's Kate and Sawyers or Kate and anybody's baby. He would know Aaron if he saw.him/

[Dr. Jones]

The Helicopter crashes on a trip to the freighter and Jack can only save Aaron. His guilt over Claires death keeps him from wanting to see Aaron. This is also may be where the courtroom story spins off from. With the helicopter gone no more can be rescued. Ben holds the O-6 hostage with the threat of killing the remaining survivors if they leak the truth.

[Lostisamazing22]

I don't think Claire is necessarily dead. I think that she may be one of the Oceanic 6, and in the same way people revert to the way they were before they crashed, she may have got off the island and reverted to the Claire who didn't want her baby and felt too pressured. I mean, when she's on the island, she has babysitters at hand all the time if she wants some personal time, and she had Charlie as a father figure for the baby, but now he's dead, and if she was thrown back in the real world, out on her own, where you need money as currency rather than food or medical supplies, she may not have been able to cope.

BUT that being said, I have a horrible suspicion she is dead, and think that it's not coincidental that she and Charlie who were looking after the baby would die and leave the baby alone. It definitely looks like it's Claire's baby that Kate is minding, it looks like her! I hope she doesn't die, that'd be too sad!

I dont think she is one of the oceanc six because i dont think she would give aaron away if she was.

[Lostisamazing22]

The Helicopter crashes on a trip to the freighter and Jack can only save Aaron. His guilt over Claires death keeps him from wanting to see Aaron. This is also may be where the courtroom story spins off from. With the helicopter gone no more can be rescued. Ben holds the O-6 hostage with the threat of killing the remaining survivors if they leak the truth.

Thats a good theory but i think jack is freaked out to see aaron in the flashforward cause he found out that hes claires sister.

[ortrules]

Thats a good theory but i think jack is freaked out to see aaron in the flashforward cause he found out that hes claires sister.
I don't understand why so many people think this.

Jack is a genuinely good guy. If he finds out Claire is his sister, that would not stop him from seeing Aaron. In fact, given Jack's character, he would want to see Aaron.

The only point that makes sense is that Jack feels so much guilt for whatever happens with Claire that he can't even bear to look at Aaron.

[Rosebud]

I heard Eric...

[islander]

I heard Eric...

so did i and a few others, but i went back and listened a few times....she says aaron but it sounds more like 'erin'....the writers were messing with us.

[LS1234review]

ok this aaron is not kates baby i would bet millions on it, anyone ever thought that jack doesnt want to see aaron because maybe jack killed claire? (if claire dies) why else would jack feel so guilty? unless he was able to stop it and decided not to for some reason

[lostdesign]

if it were somehow sawyers baby, that would possibly explain blond hair. However, that isn't the case, it is clairs baby. It is older because the time difference, exact same as walt. The baby is clearly down syndrom because of the crash, seams reasonable to hurt the growth of an unborn.

[Devi]

Robert is it? He brought up a very good point about two pages ago. The child they have playing, Aaron, Erin, or Eric is very downs syndrome looking. That would change things considerably here. Aaron on the island as a baby is clearly not downs, but maybe? Or it is Kate's baby and the whole feeling guilty over Jack's seeing the child has something to do with the child's disability. It could be that the island was keeping the child from showing downs, but off the island the downs came through, or maybe Jack feels responsible for talking her off the island.

I think everyone here has great theories, you just overlook the most in your face things, such as the child's apparent disability.

[maryb]

I think Claire gave her baby to Kate because it was too dangerous on the island. Just my thoughts. If I was Claire and the end conclusion was my baby going away... I would do it because there was no other way. Maybe Claire can't leave the island (don't ask why, I have no idea!) but Aaron had to?

Yay! I love this show. :D

Well maybe she gives the baby to Kate because originally before the crash she was giving her baby up for adoption. Maybe everything had to plan out the way it was before the crash to make things right. You can't change things.... I DON'T KNOW !!!

[Jasonater]

Could someone watch it with closed captions on so we are sure if she said Aaron or Eric? I think its Aaron and it's Claire's boy.

[heavensprincess]

Could someone watch it with closed captions on so we are sure if she said Aaron or Eric? I think its Aaron and it's Claire's boy.

Close caption says Aaron.

[TSOLFONAF]

That is Funny!!!!

[TSOLFONAF]

Oh it is Aaron. He is a good sleeper" And he was sleepin when she came home.

That is funny!!! Nice suit

[justjoe]

He is Claire's Aaron. Doesn't look like he has Downs to me. Besides for a woman Claire's age to have a child with downs would be extremely strange. Here is a picture.


<a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m317/justjoe001/?action=view&current=Aaron-ff.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m317/justjoe001/Aaron-ff.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Turnip Queen]

Where are people getting downs from? I don't get it!

[katehair]

Just wanted to be the 100th reply...do I get a prize?

I do think Aaron will be "special" like Walt, but according to the psychic - danger will surround him. Kate had a dangerouse look on her face at the end.

[DriveShaft]

Okay we need to understand that Lost creaters like to play tricks however they are not trying to fool us.

Of course it is Aaron (Claires baby)

That is why the episode is so cool

That is why we are dying to see the next one

And that is why intense music was plaid when Kate said it.

Thats why we got slapped in the face with a big LOST logo like always

: )

Could someone watch it with closed captions on so we are sure if she said Aaron or Eric? I think its Aaron and it's Claire's boy.

Haha you do realize how pointless the episode would be if his name was eric or anything else besides Aaron.

Close caption says Aaron.

Haha you didnt tell me you were deaf ; )

[heavensprincess]

Okay we need to understand that Lost creaters like to play tricks however they are not trying to fool us.

Of course it is Aaron (Claires baby)

That is why the episode is so cool

That is why we are dying to see the next one

And that is why intense music was plaid when Kate said it.

Thats why we got slapped in the face with a big LOST logo like always

: )



Haha you do realize how pointless the episode would be if his name was eric or anything else besides Aaron.



Haha you didnt tell me you were deaf ; )

lol...for some reason I find myself watching lost closed caption a lot

[lostlindy]

Like I said in another thread----Aaron,Eric---either,neither. I don't think it's Aaron. :cool:

[DriveShaft]

Like I said in another thread----Aaron,Eric---either,neither. I don't think it's Aaron. :cool:

Except it is Aaron.

[skatertsol]

Except it is Aaron.
Agreed! I think it would be pointless if it was Aaron. First of all-Why make a big point of Kate not picking him up when they are on the island, and Kate and Claire having that mother/child talk. Ok yes Kate thought she was pregnant, but I really don't think she is; we were to see that some part of her really does want to be a mother, though, it's just like she's "not quite ripe" to it. I think her interaction with Aaron and Claire in that scene ties waay back to the pyschic and "no one else raising your child" comment to Claire. Yes, PART of that was explained as the purpose to put her on the plane and eventually on island,but I don't think that was the end of things. Of course we all want to see what happens if someone does raise her child besides her, and it makes for good television. Which is why it's Aaron. That's my 2 cents.

[justjoe]

I can't figure out why this is even up for debate. It is Claire's baby boy Aaron. How much more obvious do they need to make it?

[skatertsol]

I spent a whole paragraph saying what you said in a sentence joe :)

[justjoe]

Ha ha. I got through college on crib notes.

[DriveShaft]

I can't figure out why this is even up for debate. It is Claire's baby boy Aaron. How much more obvious do they need to make it?

People spend the whole episode looking so hard to zoom in on little things and find a meaning that they forget that when a twist happens.

It is exactly what it is.

A twist.

You cant add a spin on a twist.

That just sounds out of control!

[justjoe]

I agree DS. Just like you can't triple stamp a double stamp.

[skatertsol]

People spend the whole episode looking so hard to zoom in on little things and find a meaning that they forget that when a twist happens.

It is exactly what it is.

A twist.

You cant add a spin on a twist.

That just sounds out of control!
I think you should've broke out serious cat for that one.

[youalleverybody]

Aaron looked to be about 3 1/2 - 4 years old in that episode, and Kate's mother was saying she has been sick for 6 years. looks like we will be on the ilsland for a number of years before the 6 return to the main land.

The kid was two years old, said so whe the credits rolled.

William Blanchette as two year old boy

[Devi]

OK. OK. So I was wrong on the downs, just an unfortunate camera angle.

As two year old boy...hmmm.