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kt_kay
05-04-2009, 02:46 AM
When Charles Widmore was talking to Daniel’s mom, he said “he’s my son too” which implies that he is his father. However, both of Daniel’s parents have blue eyes and he has brown eyes. It is genetically impossible for them to be his parents. So, either one of them isn’t his parent or the creators overlooked something. Let me know what you think.

Unbridled Pageantry
05-04-2009, 02:50 AM
When Charles Widmore was talking to Daniel’s mom, he said “he’s my son too” which implies that he is his father. However, both of Daniel’s parents have blue eyes and he has brown eyes. It is genetically impossible for them to be his parents. So, either one of them isn’t his parent or the creators overlooked something. Let me know what you think.

You could have a child of a different eye colour.
I have brown eyes. My dad has blue and my mom has brown. If I have a child with a brown eyed girl, there's nothing stopping that kid from possibly having blue eyes. It could be a recessive gene; or the mail man was around too much.

Hurley eats the baby
05-04-2009, 02:53 AM
Welcome to the board KT.
Yeah, I don't think it really matters much. My kudos to you for detail, though. I thought I picked up on things but you are very, very good!

notsolost42
05-04-2009, 02:53 AM
Excellent point! I bet it was overlooked by TPTB! Who woulda thunk! Yes, if both parents have blue eyes there is a 99% chance of the child having blue eyes and a 1% chance of them having green eyes! The only thing I can think of that TPTB can say to cover up this faux pas is that someone was wearing contacts! lol.

wiley
05-04-2009, 02:55 AM
If Ellie had aimed a little higher his dad would have had a black eye.

chester
05-04-2009, 02:59 AM
When Charles Widmore was talking to Daniel’s mom, he said “he’s my son too” which implies that he is his father. However, both of Daniel’s parents have blue eyes and he has brown eyes. It is genetically impossible for them to be his parents. So, either one of them isn’t his parent or the creators overlooked something. Let me know what you think.

Good point kt. I don't think it is very likely for a child to have brown if both have parents have blue. But it may be possilbe? Could a random mutation occur?

But yes, Whidmore saying “he’s my son too” might be an example of how they refer to all children in their little island society.

NoData
05-04-2009, 03:00 AM
KT you are absolutely correct! Blue eyes are recessive so if Widmore and Hawking have blue eyes it means they do not posess the brown-eye gene, therefore their offspring cannot have brown eyes... looks like Eloise was fooling around with the UPS guy, or something. What can "brown" do for you??? lol

Wait a minute, doesn't Richard have brown eyes? hmmm...

smthng2dowthlost
05-04-2009, 03:05 AM
you saying ellie showed richard around the temple:D

imascootinspook
05-04-2009, 03:28 AM
My husband and I both have brown eyes, and brown is dom. on both sides of our family, however, our 2nd child has crystal blue eyes....just like my mothers. I do believe brown is the more dom. gene in general. Some Quarter horse ( a solid one colored gene horse) breeders have ended up with a Paint ( 2 or 3 colored) foal.
Maybe Dan got his browns from falling back on his Egyptian ancestors? lol (that 1 was a joke, kinda).

HisNameIsRobertPaulson
05-04-2009, 04:20 AM
Two blue-eyed parents can indeed have a brown-eyed child. It is a popular misconception based on outdated and imperfect information.

tpbaxter
05-04-2009, 04:31 AM
KT you are absolutely correct! Blue eyes are recessive so if Widmore and Hawking have blue eyes it means they do not posess the brown-eye gene, therefore their offspring cannot have brown eyes... looks like Eloise was fooling around with the UPS guy, or something. What can "brown" do for you??? lol

haha, what can brown do for you... nice!

um, yeah also, why does Daniel Faraday have a different last name then both of his parents and why doesn't he speak with a british accent when both of his parents do and he went to Oxford which is in the UK?

also why did Faraday grow up so well adjusted with a mother who is a total psycho.

New Age Messiah
05-04-2009, 04:59 AM
also why did Faraday grow up so well adjusted with a mother who is a total psycho.He had a constant. Duh.

mysavior
05-04-2009, 09:19 PM
Ellie was fooling around with Mr. Faraday, who happens to have brown eyes.

when am i?
05-04-2009, 10:47 PM
um, yeah also, why does Daniel Faraday have a different last name then both of his parents and why doesn't he speak with a british accent when both of his parents do and he went to Oxford which is in the UK?
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I have no idea why he has a diffrent last name,but he has an American accent cos he grew up in the US and then went Oxford.

Oh yeah,maybe Widmore is not his biological father,that could also explain why Hawking slapped him.

DNIYM
05-05-2009, 01:37 AM
Don't worry, I'm sure that after their moles read these damn fine points of detail, Darlton will write in some inconsistent, FULL OF IT explanation to fix their errors since they clearly write this show as they go along.

I'm just excited to see what BS third option they come up with to make any possible storyline viable - first we had WHH, then we got ONWAWHCBCBV (oh no, wait, actually, whatever happened can be changed by variables) and soon I expect we'll get EVCGTA.CACTOE (every viewer can go to abc.com and create their own ending).

FU,D. SMD. (Hint: The first "D" stands for Darlton).

Unbridled Pageantry
05-05-2009, 03:26 AM
I'm just excited to see what BS third option they come up with to make any possible storyline viable - first we had WHH, then we got ONWAWHCBCBV (oh no, wait, actually, whatever happened can be changed by variables) and soon I expect we'll get EVCGTA.CACTOE (every viewer can go to abc.com and create their own ending).

I never really got why people argued this point. We all saw Daniel give his whole WHH speech; and then the very next minute tell Desmond that he's special and can change the future.
So not once was it ever implied that WHH was set in stone.
Even back in season two when Eloise told Desmond that no matter what the man in the red shoes would die. That may be true about the man it the red shoes, but it still left you questioning why Eloise had to go and stop Desmond anyways. Desmond must be able to change destiny if he needs to be stopped the the self appointed time lord.
Basically after my little rant, the bottom line is that WHH was never said to be the way that things went; it was always in question.

HisNameIsRobertPaulson
05-05-2009, 12:03 PM
Basically after my little rant, the bottom line is that WHH was never said to be the way that things went; it was always in question.

Perhaps, but we have yet to see any evidence whatsoever of the past (or future) actually changing.

ortrules
05-05-2009, 02:22 PM
Two blue-eyed parents can indeed have a brown-eyed child. It is a popular misconception based on outdated and imperfect information.

Correct. It is certainly not common for two blue-eyed parents to have a brown-eyed child, but it is entirely possible.

Goobersmooch525
05-05-2009, 04:47 PM
When Charles Widmore was talking to Daniel’s mom, he said “he’s my son too” which implies that he is his father. However, both of Daniel’s parents have blue eyes and he has brown eyes. It is genetically impossible for them to be his parents. So, either one of them isn’t his parent or the creators overlooked something. Let me know what you think.

That's weird. I never really noticed older version of Eloise Hawking, but the younger version of Eloise had very dark brown/black eyes.

I was looking at her eyes last week when she shot Daniel and thought her eyes are almost black.

VeraLynn
05-05-2009, 05:03 PM
That's weird. I never really noticed older version of Eloise Hawking, but the younger version of Eloise had very dark brown/black eyes.

I was looking at her eyes last week when she shot Daniel and thought her eyes are almost black.

What crummy, careless casting.

sykotek
05-05-2009, 06:41 PM
Both of my parents have brown eyes and my sister and I both have blue / green eyes. No we're not adopted and yes I'm sure that we're both biologically theirs.

VeraLynn
05-05-2009, 09:06 PM
Both of my parents have brown eyes and my sister and I both have blue / green eyes. No we're not adopted and yes I'm sure that we're both biologically theirs.

That just means that both of your parents probably have one gene for brown eyes, and one for blue/green. The brown is dominant. You and your sister received the recessive blue/green gene from each of your parents.

From http://www.testsymptomsathome.com/GTI11_eye_color.asp
Conclusions based on this theory:

2 'light blue' eyed parents cannot have a 'blue' eyed (or darker eyed) child.
2 'blue' eyed parents can have a 'Blue-green' (or lighter) eyed child, but not hazel or anything darker.
2 'blue-green' eyed parents can have a 'Light brown' (or lighter) eyed child, but not brown or anything darker.
1 'Light brown' eyed parent and 1 'blue-green' eyed parent can have a child with any of the possible eye colors.
2 'dark brown or black' eyed parents can have a child with any of the possible eye colors (but it is unlikely they will have a light eyed child, such as light blue or blue).

HisNameIsRobertPaulson
05-05-2009, 10:47 PM
Arguably the most important conclusion identified from that link:

In conclusion, eye color is not a very reliable or accurate method to use when attempting to determine paternity of a child.

Another important exception to note:

Also, variations can also occur, randomly, causing deviations from the above conclusions.