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Archangel-Player
02-22-2008, 03:42 AM
Yeah im going to take a page out of the book of Moron and write 50,000 new post about an already discussed subject. Why? Because i can and im Arch. Deal with it lol.
Well We know the baby's name is Arron. It's blond. It has hair just like Sawyer. I know it's not Clair's Arron. Because why would Jack be all freaked and angery about Kate mothering that Arron. So It would seem it's Sawyer's. Um did the baby seem like it may have "Downs" it seemed a little off like it was handicaped. My wife also saw this as well. What do you think?
robert
02-22-2008, 03:45 AM
I just wrote the same thing in another thread. I do think he has downs. It would make sense that he is sawyer's so that is why Jack wouldn't go.
imascootinspook
02-22-2008, 03:47 AM
Yes, I did notice that his profile showed Downs, but kinda went away as he sat up...so I wasnt sure if I was seeing things...I know I couldnt hear things at that time lol thinking she said Eric.
dano81818
02-22-2008, 03:47 AM
i think it's pretty clear they are telling us it's claire's aaron. jack's freaked out b/c maybe he feels responsible for whatever happened to claire, and maybe he now knows she is his half sister.
as for the kid looking a bit messed up, yes, i did catch that but he seemed ok once he said "hi mommy".. i just chalked it up to him being tired/groggy..
HurleysMillions
02-22-2008, 03:49 AM
wow im a lil tipsy (my friends and i make an event of lost) and that was brought up and i felt like as ass agreeing with my bud.. but it was the 1st thing that popped into my head...
Olecrowfan
02-22-2008, 03:57 AM
This whole thing has gotten me confused. Kate obviously wasn't pregnant when she got to the Island, we all know that. Is everybody in the world dumb enough to believe she got pregnant and had a kid while on the Island? I can't seem to figure that one out. Unless. Unless. Are they there even longer than we know?
this whole damn thing confuses the **** outta me. It takes Nine months to have a kid, and "the real world" believes Kate had a kid, mean while saving lives and rescuing people? I don't buy it. there's something we aren't seeing or something we haven't been told.
naclu
02-22-2008, 04:10 AM
She could have been lying, but what about that fertility doctor mentioning that women who got pregnant on the island didn't typically make it past their second trimester? I believe that could possibly be true, since it sortof explains her precense on the island in the first place. If that's so, then I definately don't think Kate has a baby on the island.
That's not to say that she couldn't have been pregnant and had the baby on the freighter or after she got back or something, but I don't think she had it on the island...
All that being said, my gut tells me that it's Claire's still. I think that the whole thing about her being pregnant with Sawyer's baby was to throw us off the trail of it being Claire's baby...
**** Warning: the next paragraph mentions something from a spoiler for EP4 - Eggtown. I know the episode already aired, but letting you know just the same*****
I also think that Aaron will be one of the Oceanic 6... I read a spoiler for this episode after the fact and it said something about one that was on the plane, but didn't have a ticket.... That's either Aaron, Vincent the dog, or Jack's father's body... right?
Archangel-Player
02-22-2008, 04:11 AM
Im pretty convenced that it's Clair's Arron. Because that is exactly what my insides said when I first heard "Hi Arron" But I couldn't figure out why Jack was so upset about Kate wanting him to see the baby. Well then it dawned on me thatthey where half sibs. Which means Jack had to make a dission again that this time he feels coast him the life of a sister or maybe she isn't dead and he had to leave her behind in the hands of thoese people on the island. Which i lean more that hehad to leave her behind. I belive this is part of the reason Jack is so messed up in his flash Fwd. Not all of it ovcourse but it's part of it.
az-phil
02-22-2008, 05:04 AM
I agree with the theory about Jack's reason for not seeing the baby has something to do with how Claire died or got left behind. He probably found out that she is his half-sister which makes him extra guilty.
naclu
02-22-2008, 05:10 AM
I agree with the theory about Jack's reason for not seeing the baby has something to do with how Claire died or got left behind. He probably found out that she is his half-sister which makes him extra guilty.
Here's an idea that could go along with your theory:
I'd bet that he doesn't find out about Claire being his sister until he gets back and finds something in his father's papers... He didn't know that his father was dead when he went down to Australia to bring him home, so he hasn't seen a will or anything yet. Perhaps there is either something in the will for her or a letter to one or both of them...
LockeFan
02-22-2008, 05:18 AM
Here's an idea that could go along with your theory:
I'd bet that he doesn't find out about Claire being his sister until he gets back and finds something in his father's papers... He didn't know that his father was dead when he went down to Australia to bring him home, so he hasn't seen a will or anything yet. Perhaps there is either something in the will for her or a letter to one or both of them...
I can buy into all of that. Makes the most sense out of every theory I've heard thus far.
lostfan4ever
02-23-2008, 04:13 AM
i believe kates baby is claires. we dont know if all the oceanic 6 get off the island at the same time or if they were in contact after the fact ( that much) in the last episode of season 3 kate didnt seem to be to happy to see jack at the airport and in season 4 hurley was surprised to see jack. so if something happened to claire on the island and jack had already left he may not know that kate has arron. after they got back he hears she has a baby and assumes its sawyers. kate never tells him because she wants him to love her baby wheather its sawyer's or not ( in this case not) so if jack can't accept her baby for being just hers she won't except jack. just a thought.
lostlindy
02-23-2008, 04:28 AM
Clair has to be dead because I cannot imagine her letting her son go. Especially after this last show when she's telling Kate how much she enjoys being a Mom.
az-phil
02-23-2008, 04:46 AM
Maybe the baby is actually a Ben Clone. That's why Jack doesn't want anything to do with it. :D
BomberDawg95
02-23-2008, 06:01 AM
I think the question the DA asked Jack while he was on the stand may paint part of their 'false story'.
I'm thinking the story being told is that Aaron is Jack & Kate's son, and that is why he does not want to go see the boy.
islelost
02-23-2008, 09:07 AM
She could have been lying, but what about that fertility doctor mentioning that women who got pregnant on the island didn't typically make it past their second trimester? I believe that could possibly be true, since it sortof explains her precense on the island in the first place. If that's so, then I definately don't think Kate has a baby on the island.
That's not to say that she couldn't have been pregnant and had the baby on the freighter or after she got back or something, but I don't think she had it on the island...
All that being said, my gut tells me that it's Claire's still. I think that the whole thing about her being pregnant with Sawyer's baby was to throw us off the trail of it being Claire's baby...
**** Warning: the next paragraph mentions something from a spoiler for EP4 - Eggtown. I know the episode already aired, but letting you know just the same*****
I also think that Aaron will be one of the Oceanic 6... I read a spoiler for this episode after the fact and it said something about one that was on the plane, but didn't have a ticket.... That's either Aaron, Vincent the dog, or Jack's father's body... right?
If you remember in season 1 the phsycic told Claire that only option is for family in Lax to take her baby. Looked like Kate lived in Lax. The other thought is maybe she had baby before crashing why was Kate trying to leave the island so bad when she is a fugitive. Also she questioned Miles maybe she wanted to know if he knew about her son at home. Remember mother said Dr only gave her 4 years to live. Baby looked about 3 my first impression was that the baby was down sydrome. Everyone connected in this show could the babies have the same name or did she say another name that sounds like Aron
olive is found
02-23-2008, 09:49 AM
I believe the baby is Sawyers, the time frame would fit, i doubt as soon as they are back in the US she went straight to trial it may have taken time to go to court(enough time for the survivors to return and for Kate to get a semi mansion!!), so the baby could have been born and then the trial came up. In the last episode, Kate slept with Sawyer, she was feeling maternal after speaking to Claire. The morning after she wanted Sawyer to slow down, it seemed she was testing Sawyer, he asked if she was worried about being pregnant and she said she wasn’t, How does she know she isn’t? Is there a dharma pharmacy where she got a pregnancy test? Unless she started her period over night there is no way she can be sure she isn’t pregnant. She asked a question wanting a preferred response, the way she phrased it inferred she wanted Sawyer to agree with what she was saying
“It would be the worst thing in the world if i was pregnant, right?” Poor Sawyer thinks she wants him to agree and does so ‘Hell yes, you want a baby about as much as I do’ and as always he doesn’t just tell her he loves her and has for months. Any woman in this position would want to be told, ‘I love you and I want you to be the mother of my children’. So she feels deflated when he doesn’t. Jack may be upset stemming from when he saw them in the others cage post sex, he felt territorial about her getting pregnant by Sawyer and so doesn’t want to see the baby. When will the writers just make Kate and Sawyer be together and happy?
The very fact that the writers wrote the scene where Kate had a baby/maternal moment with Clair and Arran suggests to me she is pregnant(I assume no birth control was available when she slept with Sawyer last time in the 'dharma pharmacy')
beachblinkette
02-23-2008, 03:35 PM
If Aaron is Claire's, and it was Claire who saved Jack's life, but lost her own, (like Charlie) then Jack seeing the boy might be the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back. Thus, with the seemingly heavy load he's carrying, Jack cannot tip the scales one little bit. There had better be a gigantic reason for Jack's hesitance here. So come on, writers, you must make this one very very good!
tbil999
02-23-2008, 05:06 PM
I think the question the DA asked Jack while he was on the stand may paint part of their 'false story'.
I'm thinking the story being told is that Aaron is Jack & Kate's son, and that is why he does not want to go see the boy.
That would certainly explain why when the prosecutor asked Jack if he loved Kate, he said "not any more" instead of "no".
Dzbabykel
02-23-2008, 05:14 PM
I believe the baby is Sawyers, the time frame would fit, i doubt as soon as they are back in the US she went straight to trial it may have taken time to go to court(enough time for the survivors to return and for Kate to get a semi mansion!!), so the baby could have been born and then the trial came up. In the last episode, Kate slept with Sawyer, she was feeling maternal after speaking to Claire. The morning after she wanted Sawyer to slow down, it seemed she was testing Sawyer, he asked if she was worried about being pregnant and she said she wasn’t, How does she know she isn’t? Is there a dharma pharmacy where she got a pregnancy test? Unless she started her period over night there is no way she can be sure she isn’t pregnant. She asked a question wanting a preferred response, the way she phrased it inferred she wanted Sawyer to agree with what she was saying
“It would be the worst thing in the world if i was pregnant, right?” Poor Sawyer thinks she wants him to agree and does so ‘Hell yes, you want a baby about as much as I do’ and as always he doesn’t just tell her he loves her and has for months. Any woman in this position would want to be told, ‘I love you and I want you to be the mother of my children’. So she feels deflated when he doesn’t. Jack may be upset stemming from when he saw them in the others cage post sex, he felt territorial about her getting pregnant by Sawyer and so doesn’t want to see the baby. When will the writers just make Kate and Sawyer be together and happy?
The very fact that the writers wrote the scene where Kate had a baby/maternal moment with Clair and Arran suggests to me she is pregnant(I assume no birth control was available when she slept with Sawyer last time in the 'dharma pharmacy')
Then why would she name her baby "Aaron"???
islander
02-23-2008, 07:40 PM
kate seems very distressed that miles knows her legal problems. i wouldn't be surprised if kate ultimately kidnaps aaron. maybe that's why jack won't go see aaron.
lkeegan
02-23-2008, 08:36 PM
Did anyone happen to notice the 2 robots above Aaron's bed? One big one small? Is this Aaron 1 or 2
lkeegan
02-23-2008, 08:38 PM
I think your on to something.
lostfan4ever
02-23-2008, 09:46 PM
i got another therory about kate's baby. what if she was already pregnant when she got to the island? some one on the plane had a pregnancy test with them because sun got it from sawyer. women dont just keep pregnancy test for no good reason. if she was to early to know before the plane ride, and they haven't been on the island but a little over 3 months she may have been pregnant the whole time. also ben's group knew everything about all the people on the flight. he told juliet to get samples from all the women on the island but they made a point to say kate. i know she had slept with sawyer, but that was like the day before, so they couldn't have been able to tell that quick anyway. so maybe the baby has something to do with kate's life before the plane crash. and they just want to throw us off with the whole sawyer and arron thing .
phoebe beeberbee
02-23-2008, 09:59 PM
That sounds feasible.
I'm pretty sure that I heard Sawyer say to Kate (in the morning - just before the 'row') - 'hey, I can understand that you didn't want to go all the way last night'
So although they had sex before, they didn't that night. So if she said 'I know I'm not pregnant' - she might be telling the truth...
james220
02-24-2008, 01:20 AM
Did anyone happen to notice the 2 robots above Aaron's bed? One big one small? Is this Aaron 1 or 2
I did notice the robots and gave it some thought, but didn't really come up with anything that made sense. Maybe it's a reference to Bad Robot!
eqkedri
02-24-2008, 01:24 AM
Claire and Jack are brother and sister. Maybe he doesn't want to come around because he couldn't get Claire off the island, and every time he sees his nephew it reminds him.
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