Did someone take Richard's playbook?

[islander]

Wow...Richard seems to have absolutely no idea what is going on in either time period. The guy is overrated.

Oh, and since Ellie is the leader in 1977, I think that means she left the island, one way or another, before Charles. So she is technically senior to Charles and Ben.... still not sure about where Brother Campbell fits in though.

[TXAgg]

seriously... my timeline is ass screwed up... i can understand the jump into the future... but shouldnt richard remember john from the 50's....

[spartygirl]

seriously... my timeline is ass screwed up... i can understand the jump into the future... but shouldnt richard remember john from the 50's....

Im so LOST !!!!!!!!!!:eek:;):p

[rock-lobster]

seriously... my timeline is ass screwed up... i can understand the jump into the future... but shouldnt richard remember john from the 50's....

he does remember him. what evidence do you have that he doesn't? he understood what locke meant when he asked if he had his compass.

[TXAgg]

he does remember him. what evidence do you have that he doesn't? he understood what locke meant when he asked if he had his compass.

i dunno, it doesn't really seem like richard has any idea what the hell is going on

[islander]

seriously... my timeline is ass screwed up... i can understand the jump into the future... but shouldnt richard remember john from the 50's....

Ellie remembered meeting Dan in the 50s. Of course that was right after she killed him.

[etfrompo]

Maybe Richard is just pretending ignorance so he doesn't give away information that might change things if theres another time jump.

[rock-lobster]

i dunno, it doesn't really seem like richard has any idea what the hell is going on

maybe regarding giving locke the compass in the first place, because he hadn't yet given it to him.

he doesn't know as much as locke because locke knows more than him. doesn't mean he doesn't remember things from before.

[islander]

Seriously, for someone Juliet called very old, and for someone who might be time traveling since he doesn't age, Richard is the dumbest guy on the island.

[Baibe]

Seriously, for someone Juliet called very old, and for someone who might be time traveling since he doesn't age, Richard is the dumbest guy on the island.
I was thinkin the same thing. He seems totally clueless and has no idea WTH is goin on.

As far as the compass Richard still has it from Locke's test in like the 60 (which is afte Locke gave it to him in 54 (which is after RA gives it to Locke in 07 {patched up leg) I think it is the same compass. I don't think RA doesn't know John was just shocked to see him cuz it has been 3 yrs and like he said Locke seems diff.

But Richard diff is getting more credit than he deserves. He is never the leader only "advisor" cuz he is very, very old and everyone always seems to tell him what to do. Locke appears way more confident than RA at this point. I was wondering if RA doesn't know what is coming next in the same sense that Ellie doesn't. (Speaking of 07 EH & RA)

[imascootinspook]

I am so confused now than I have ever been since season 1. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out he is a robot at this point lol. He only knows input that is put into him apparently.

[DeathMag84]

Richard is not overrated, you are. LOL

[swaded420]

Richard seems oblivious to what happened to John after the flash when they were sitting on the log together. I think this is the TPTB's way of saying that RICHARD IS NOT TIME TRAVELING, AND THAT IS NOT HOW HE APPEARS AGELESS. 'Nough said, I'm out. PEACE!





(drunk. hehe)

[SkippingInTime]

Maybe he just "drives the bus". That seemed to be somewhat his attitude during the whole thing.

[Waitin4Godot]

Richard is a type of advisor, as Ben said. That makes sense... He helps lend a degree of authority to the leader -- perhaps his only real 'job', aside from advising, is picking who the next leader is.

He rarely takes an active role in things.

[Nemesis Prime]

The fact that we now know Richard is an adviser I think was meant almost as an explanation to why he seems so dumbfounded now. I think Richards knowledge is based mostly around the history of the island and how it has operated in the past. I'm starting to think he's never actually seen anything like what is going on now with Locke. Even the time traveling seems to still be a fairly new concept to him, especially after seeing the plane scene again. I'll be happy if all we get out of Richard is a good history of the island at this point although I'm still hoping for more.

[abcd1234]

I think Richard doesnt make decisions, he tells locke "ok sure" knowing locke is making poor choices. its not his concern to do these things

[hyperchord24]

It does seem like as soon as Ben said advisor, we got a total (and in my mind unbelievable) character change. We used to see Richard in control, but in this episode he was very uncharacteristically submissive. I this TPTB were a little too obvious in driving the point home that he is only an advisor.

[islander]

Richard is not overrated, you are. LOL

LOL....the guy wins the award for "The most Overrated Character on Lost".....oh, nice avatar...sorry...LOL...that's the most overrated avatar on this forum....:D

Seriously, I think TPTB are trying to throw us off on Richard. If he is a time traveler living in his past, he could be more of an observer than an advisor. His role is to make sure events go a certain way so as long as the characters don't do anything he feels they shouldn't (or maybe "didn't), he just goes along with them.

[abcd1234]

really? I think jacob is the most overrated character. I posted last year ben never saw him, so eat that

[startswimming]

Maybe the reason he seems like he doesn't know what he's doing is because something changed, or maybe he doesn't trust Locke, and perhaps this whole "richard is x deity" thing has led you to have unfair expectations about his abilities, i'm sure he wouldn't be around if his only function was to ask the others leader what the hell was going on all the time.

[RussellEarl3]

If you thought that Richard is running things, that he is the 'man behind the curtain' then I guess he is overrated. Personally I would not be so dismissive of someone who looks so good after - 200 years? 2000 years? 20,000 years? Maybe the secret to keeping your girlish figure and taut skin is to avoid leadership decisions.

[ortrules]

Imagine the things he's witnessed:

In 1954 a strange man walks up to him claiming to be from the future and gives him a compass. Then he vanishes right in front of his eyes.

In 1974, Sawyer approaches him and says "remember that guy who talked to you 20 years ago?"

In 1977, someone from the future appears and says I need to find the bomb I told you to bury 20 years ago right before disappearing. Then two more people say, we knew this guy, we came from the future, take us to the bomb so we can change things. Eloise then suddenly agrees to do so.

In 2004, most of these people he met 30 or 50 years ago crash on the island. Later, Ben turns the wheel and Locke, again, vanishes right before his eyes.

Three years later, after having no idea what happened to Locke, he shows up again and somehow seems to have answers for everything. Including the moment when Locke himself is in two places at the same time.

Yea. I don't really blame the guy for being a little confused.

[abcd1234]

actually when richard saw locke when he came into the camp, he looked really disturbed. and he says "this john locke looks like he is going to be trouble" what does that mean?

[gwynnie]

Could Ellie have decided voluntarily to leave the island when she realized she was pregnant? Could it be that even then there was a problem with women carrying pregnancies to full term and that's why she left - in order to have her baby? Was Ellie worried about possible radioactive contamination from the bomb and her pregnancy and left??:confused:

[VeraLynn]

First of all, Richard does remember Locke from the 50's, there is no debate about that. 50's Locke sends Richard to see child Locke. Then, when 815 crashes, Richard tells Locke that they had been waiting for him, and he is their leader. Richard got this information directly from 50's Locke. So he does remember him.

I don't think Richard is overrated. He does not blindly follow orders. He does take initiative. He saved Ben's life. Even said that he doesn't have to ask Ellie or Charles. He also manipulated Sawyer into killing Locke's dad, so that Locke could pass the leadership test Ben was giving him. Richard definitely follows his own path, to an extent.

Now, we are seeing a darker side to him. Many of his facial expressions last night made him look like someone who should not be trusted, let alone his statement that John Locke could be a problem. I had never seen that side of Richard before.