View Full Version : Claire and Aaron get on the helicopter.
divinesynder
02-22-2008, 04:21 AM
According to Desmond's flashes, Claire and the baby leave the island. But what I wanna know is why is Kate raising Aaron? If Claire did in fact make off the island she would be with her baby. Someone mentioned that maybe Claire was the one in the coffin but that would mean she was alive when Kate's trial took place. Remember when Jack came to Kate before she went home. He said he had to be at the hospital. Apparently he hadn't hit his suicidal pill popping phase. So the trial had to have happened before Jack and Kate met again at the airport.
I just can't believe that this happened. With Kate being a fugitive on the run, isn't anyone gonna realize that she wasn't pregnant when she boarded Flight 815? On the island Aaron's roughly 3 and half months old. How is that gonna work with Kate suposedly being the mom?
God, it's so confusing!!!!!
naclu
02-22-2008, 04:43 AM
Didn't Desmond just say that he saw Claire and the baby getting on a helicopter? I really don't remember... Anyone? Perhaps something happens after she's on??? Maybe she's sick or injured before she gets on and doesn't make it???
I don't think Claire would have been in the coffin because Kate seemed so uninterested in going to the memorial service... I mean, Kate and Claire COULD become enemies, but Claire is such a sweetheart that I don't see that happening...
I also think that IF CLAIRE IS DEAD, that it happened in transit from the island - maybe on the freighter or something... Aaron, in this episode, knew Kate as "mommy", so I think that it may have happened when he was still very little.... I mean, he could learn her as his new mommy, but it's easier for me to believe that he learned her name as mommy as soon as he learned to speak.
I think that Kate is probably raising Aaron because Claire asked her to. I don't think that she will try to claim that she gave birth to him. I think that it will come out in the storyline that Claire was supposedly one of the O8, but not the O6.
lostlindy
02-27-2008, 01:13 AM
I don't think it is Aaron.They just threw that at us. And if you listen real close, it's possible she did say Eric.
lostlindy
02-27-2008, 01:14 AM
Like Jack's "either, neither"
DriveShaft
02-27-2008, 01:18 AM
I don't think it is Aaron.They just threw that at us. And if you listen real close, it's possible she did say Eric.
I am going to be forward because you are just going to be confusing yourself
IT IS AARON
Listen, you are watching a TV show.
You should not have to go back and listen real close.
You need to get it on the spot.
That is the twist of the episode
That is why the episode is remembered.
It focus's on Kate's baby then we find out its Aaron.
Not Eric.
The last thing producers want to do is CONFUSE you. They want to INTRIGUE you.
You tune in next week to find out why the hell Kate has Aaron.
lostlindy
02-27-2008, 01:22 AM
I've never missed an episode of this show and have all 3 seasons and havw watched them numourus times and yes the do screw with ya :D
justjoe
02-27-2008, 01:49 AM
But not this time. It's Aaron.
DriveShaft
02-27-2008, 01:53 AM
I've never missed an episode of this show and have all 3 seasons and havw watched them numourus times and yes the do screw with ya :D
Kate having Aaron is them screwing with us. That is the SCREW.
We bent over. And took the screw. There is no more screwing after that.
We were under the impression that Kate was pregnant.
And when she said she had a baby we are thinking...Sawyers.
Then they screw with us and make it Aaron. End of screwing.
skatertsol
02-27-2008, 02:03 AM
Kate having Aaron is them screwing with us. That is the SCREW.
We bent over. And took the screw. There is no more screwing after that.
We were under the impression that Kate was pregnant.
And when she said she had a baby we are thinking...Sawyers.
Then they screw with us and make it Aaron. End of screwing.
Wouldn't it be funny if the writer's were to look on here...."Well, that was MEANT to be the screw, but apparently the screw is debating Eric or Aaron." It's Aaron!!!!!
agmic
02-27-2008, 11:28 AM
I'm staying with what I thought at the beginning, it may be Aaron or Eric, whatever, but I believe that it's (the baby) is Kates who she had before the crash, when she was on the run from the law.......
justjoe
02-27-2008, 12:38 PM
What!!! She had a baby when she was on the run? It's a novel idea but not very plausible.
bunnydixon
02-27-2008, 12:42 PM
who would she have left it with and how has she got him back pre trial?
i know the vision was with claire and aaron on the helicopter but remember there are 2 extra folks than the 06 - claire may not be breathing when she gets on that helicopter.
BrothaDezzy
02-27-2008, 01:01 PM
I am going to be forward because you are just going to be confusing yourself
IT IS AARON
Listen, you are watching a TV show.
You should not have to go back and listen real close.
You need to get it on the spot.
That is the twist of the episode
That is why the episode is remembered.
It focus's on Kate's baby then we find out its Aaron.
Not Eric.
The last thing producers want to do is CONFUSE you. They want to INTRIGUE you.
You tune in next week to find out why the hell Kate has Aaron.
Exactly good point. Why would they put it as Eric, like weve herd of Eric before. Its just the way she said Aaron that we know Oh snap thats Claires baby why does Kate have him. Its the final thing before they drop the LOST thing on us when the episode ends.
Quick Draw
02-27-2008, 01:52 PM
I'm staying with what I thought at the beginning, it may be Aaron or Eric, whatever, but I believe that it's (the baby) is Kates who she had before the crash, when she was on the run from the law.......
As passionately as those Marshals were tracking Kate it's hard to believe they gave her maternity leave from running for the law long enough for her cary the baby to term, deliver him, and get back on her feet in time to give them the slip again.
agmic
02-27-2008, 02:44 PM
ok, maybe she didn't have the kid on the run, but had the kid before she got in to trouble.....
justjoe
02-27-2008, 02:58 PM
agmic please accept the fact that it is Claire's Aaron. That's the holy sh!t moment.
maryb
02-27-2008, 03:15 PM
agmic please accept the fact that it is Claire's Aaron. That's the holy sh!t moment.
Ok- say it is Claires' Aaron. We they get back home he is 2-3 yrs. old. If Claire dies on the way home, Aaron wouldn't know Kate as Mommy. Unless, Claire died on the Island way before they get back home and Kate raises Aaron on the Island as well????
justjoe
02-27-2008, 03:18 PM
When they get back home Aaron is still a baby. We see them about 1 1/2 years into the future at Kates trial. I still say Claire dies on the island but while trying to get rescued.
ortrules
02-27-2008, 03:20 PM
If Claire dies on the way home, Aaron wouldn't know Kate as Mommy. Unless, Claire died on the Island way before they get back home and Kate raises Aaron on the Island as well????
And at which point were we told that Aaron considers Kate mommy?
Maybe Aaron doesn't consider Kate to be mommy. Maybe Aaron was too young when Claire dies to remember her. We don't know.
What we do know is that is definitely Claire's baby - no other option makes any sense.
agmic
02-27-2008, 03:27 PM
No, we don't definitely know it's Claire's baby. The only fact we have is that Kate calls him Aaron? That's it. All this talk on here, everyone is saying that Claire is died or will die soon...I don't buy that, she is alive somewhere with Aaron and that the kid with Kate is hers.......
ortrules
02-27-2008, 03:28 PM
Then answer this simple question:
When did Kate have the baby?
thelawgiver
02-27-2008, 03:33 PM
I basically agree that this is Claire's Aaron that Kate is now raising as hers. But what got me is that Kate's mom desperately wanted to see her grandson. So Kate has somehow bamboozled the world that Aaron is her biological son. This seems hard to do since Kate was not PG getting on the plane (the Marshalls would have a record of this) and that she presumably spent only 100 or so days on the island. So does the time distortion suggestion take care of this? Is the FF of Kate 2-3 years out and it is her child (by Sawyer) named Aaron in honor of Claire's Aaron who ends up left on the island (or dead)?
agmic
02-27-2008, 03:33 PM
She had the baby before she got in trouble with the law...before she killed her step dad....before she went on the run....in the flashbacks, you never saw her much before that point in her live.....
ortrules
02-27-2008, 03:38 PM
Well if she had the baby before she wanted for murder, wouldn't her mother have gotten a chance to know the baby?
Before Kate went on the run she had a pretty good relationship with her mother - so I'm pretty sure the mother would know about the baby. Their relationship was ruined after Kate went on the run and revealed what she did to her mother.
LawGiver - I don't think Kate told anyone how old the baby was. In fact, I think the reason she hides the baby from her mother and the court room is because everyone would then know that there's no way Kate could've had that baby. This would of course bring more questions as to how Kate got this baby, who it belonged to, and eventually reveal the lie that the Oceanic 6 is so keen on telling.
thelawgiver
02-27-2008, 03:49 PM
OR, I like the hidden baby thing, but in L.A., the stalking papparazi would have gotten a few pics by now. He also would have been seen during the "staged" rescue. I do not think you could stuff him in a backpack. It also seems to be public knowledge that she has a kid (nanny, Jack, her lawyer and mom [whom she had no contact with]).
I do not think there is enough evidence to support that Kate had a kid while on the run from the law. Remember that she did almost settle down, but took off because of her past issues. That could be a source. However, in all FBs she never seems to be concerned about her kid or protecting a kid. She was more driven by resolving her issues with her own Mom. Also, in the last episode she showed continued baby ineptitude when Claire asked her for a little help.
ortrules
02-27-2008, 04:06 PM
OR, I like the hidden baby thing, but in L.A., the stalking papparazi would have gotten a few pics by now. He also would have been seen during the "staged" rescue. I do not think you could stuff him in a backpack. It also seems to be public knowledge that she has a kid (nanny, Jack, her lawyer and mom
I don't know if I'd call those people public knowledge...but you're right, there's no way they could just hide the baby from public interest.
The only other thing I can think of, based on the theory that there are more survivors and the Oceanic 6 is covering up for them, is that one of them (whether it's Claire or not) brings the baby to Kate's home without anyone paying attention. Kate then claims the baby as her own while keeping it out of the public eye. And this would explain Claire "not returning" because she's in hiding so that she can keep Aaron in hiding.
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