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Also Lost
02-22-2008, 11:27 AM
Did anyone notice the book that was pulled out of the shelf? It was from Dick Valis. This I believe deals with Metaphysics and communication/holographic projection from exterresstrial beings. In the book it references a child or baby's name (Sophia) which says means 'wisdom'. We should be looking at names also, what the meanings are and who the dynamics/relationships are

lostmama
02-22-2008, 02:21 PM
I did notice that and there was a definite pause when Sayid was standing there browsing over the books before he knelt down and noticed the scratch on the floor from the bookcase being moved....I'm betting there is some meaning there.

P.S. wanted to reply to your post....doesn't it burn you when noone responds. It looked so lonely there on the list of thread with 0 responses!!! I hate that!!! :confused:

jacksnurse
02-22-2008, 02:49 PM
http://http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Literary_references

Hey also....i have been studying many of the referenced books on LOST and i had to do SLO MO to pick this one up...i always said (with some embarrassment) that aliens may have something to do with the island.....i never laughed at those theories cuz lets admit it...this is LOST ...anything goes....lol. On S3 finale...Juliette jokes (in a dry way) that that's where the aliens will land.....funny...???? or meaningful??? anyway..i have many theories and have shared them in here...but i would not be suprised.....above is a link to other books ref in LOST if u are interested...

lostNspace
02-22-2008, 02:53 PM
I assume you are referring to the book he gave to Ben. I cracked up when he told Ben to read it again after he said "I already read that". It was reminiscent of the time Locke said "I'm going to have watch that again" in reference to the orientation film in the hatch. It also may refer to the die hard losties, myself included, who re-watch the last episode.
As far the author book info, that is very interesting. They did show the books cover and that was no accident. Hmm.. holographs?

Dzbabykel
02-22-2008, 04:27 PM
Yes the book is REALLY signficant. There is another thread that discusses it and tells the synopsis of the book...WOW does it have so many parallels with the island and how Locke is. Locke even says to Ben he should read it where Ben responds with "I already have" and Locke replies with "well you should read it again!" or soemthing like that.....its very interesting so please read and tell me what you think.



Valis

Valis,one of the last books Phillip K. Dick ever wrote, offers an intensely personal (and weird!) look into the complexities of Dick's mind. His is a mind intent on discovering the true nature of religion and it's manifestations in the real world. Valis is a theology that attempts to find common ground among the world's religions by suggesting the existence of a higher power that sends it's message to Earth through the gods and leaders of the world's religions. This is just the beginning as Dick offers all sorts of explanations for what we perceive as our surroundings and the universe from information as living plasmate that penetrates every person to an ongoing battle between the forces of good (Valis) and an evil empire that has existed since the beginning of time. If you think this sounds crazy, then you're right. It is!

Based on personal experiences that happened to Dick in March of 1974, Valis is much more than a science fiction story. It is a complex view of the universe that appears to come from the mind of a deranged mental patient, obsessed with helping victims who can't help themselves and is intent on killing himself. The twisted part of Valis is that it makes more and more sense as the book goes on, drawing the reader into this insane way of thinking. While there are delusional hallucinations throughout Valis, much of Dick's world view is derived from ancient wisdom and religious beliefs. He draws many references from pre-Christian mysticism and Greek Gnosticism. Just as is Radio Free Albemuth, the reader often wonders which parts of Valis are Dick's real-life experiences. Valis is written in Dick's first person voice as he narrates about Horselover Fat, his alter-ego. His schizophrenia plays a major role in this novel, representing Dick's lack of faith as he searches for God. Further dissolving the distinction between truth and fiction, Dick discusses his own novels and his writing career as the events unfold.

Divine intervention, extraterrestrial communication and conspiracy theories all serve to lay the foundation for the insane world that is Valis. Journey inside the schizophrenic mind of PKD and Horselover Fat as they attempt to find answers to the questions of human existence, the benevolence of god and the future of the universe. In the end Dick asks the ultimate question, "Truth or fiction?".

jacksnurse
02-22-2008, 04:31 PM
thats crazy...i will have to look more into it.....BUT...we better never be left with some funky ending like "Truth or fiction"....we would all just loose it...thanks dz

Dzbabykel
02-22-2008, 05:00 PM
Here's the cover if anyone was curious.

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nirvonyx
02-22-2008, 05:04 PM
thanks for the info, everyone! i didn't slow mo anything, and i only noticed that it was a philip k. dick novel when pulled from the shelf. interesting :)

bunnydixon
02-22-2008, 05:05 PM
i see he also wrote a story called goodbye vincent!

Robo42
02-22-2008, 05:08 PM
God I hope this does not end as some crazy medication induced dream of a schizophrenic patient named Hurley.

nirvonyx
02-22-2008, 05:09 PM
lmao, bunny! if i were on that island, vincent would be my best friend. who can you really trust to truly stick around, if not a labrador? someone ought to make that doggy a nice steak dinner.
edit: don't mean to hijack, just thought it was funny to bring up vincent.

JAYHAWK11
02-22-2008, 07:01 PM
I also thought it was interesting (this episode centering around Kate) that the protagonist of Vallis is a character named Horselover Fat. I found out that horselover is from the Greek word phillippos which means lover of horses. Didn't Kate see a black horse in the jungle during season 1?

bunnydixon
02-22-2008, 07:22 PM
I also thought it was interesting (this episode centering around Kate) that the protagonist of Vallis is a character named Horselover Fat. I found out that horselover is from the Greek word phillippos which means lover of horses. Didn't Kate see a black horse in the jungle during season 1?


good link!!! although that IS a very bizarre name!

james220
02-22-2008, 08:43 PM
God I hope this does not end as some crazy medication induced dream of a schizophrenic patient named Hurley.

That's exactly what I thought when I saw this.

bunnydixon
02-22-2008, 08:50 PM
thats would be super lame!

mhzmike
03-04-2008, 06:07 AM
upcoming on a future "LOST"....

the temple is a location we haven't seen yet, and I'm sure it related to the book....as a matter of fact, many of the books seen at the beginning of an episode or during an episode has a DIRECT connection to the plot, sub-plot or storyline relating to 'LOST"......
..........station break