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notsolost42
05-12-2009, 12:31 AM
Why, out of all the "hot shot" leaders of the Others like John Locke and even Benjamin Linus, is Hurley the only one that can find Jacob's cabin? Also, do we know for sure if Richard can find it or if he can see Jacob at all?

There is a theory that Hurley can actually see and communicate with the other dimension in these mirror worlds. That is why he saw Ana Lucia, Charlie, etc. (Not Dave as that was a manifestation of his internal voice I think) They are not dead in the other universe. That is the universe with the different outcome, where flight 815 never crashed. So, can Jacob also be in this mirror universe? If so, then it can give legs to the mirror universe theory and that smokie and Jacob are two halves of a whole. A good and a bad, or a dark and a light.

Can anyone answer the Hurley question????????? Any ideas????

Jeremy
05-12-2009, 01:33 AM
I always figured it might just be because Hurley is "pure", or isn't as bad as some of the other characters are. Your idea sounds interesting too, though. How would these people from this alternate reality learn about the people we've been watching, though?

notsolost42
05-12-2009, 02:00 AM
I always figured it might just be because Hurley is "pure", or isn't as bad as some of the other characters are. Your idea sounds interesting too, though. How would these people from this alternate reality learn about the people we've been watching, though?

Well, in quantum entaglement, one mirror world is effected by the other mirror world even if they are spacially separated. So, perhaps Hurley is just sensative to the orther world. That's why they talk to him.

sirchin
05-12-2009, 02:09 AM
Why, out of all the "hot shot" leaders of the Others like John Locke and even Benjamin Linus, is Hurley the only one that can find Jacob's cabin? Also, do we know for sure if Richard can find it or if he can see Jacob at all?

There is a theory that Hurley can actually see and communicate with the other dimension in these mirror worlds. That is why he saw Ana Lucia, Charlie, etc. (Not Dave as that was a manifestation of his internal voice I think) They are not dead in the other universe. That is the universe with the different outcome, where flight 815 never crashed. So, can Jacob also be in this mirror universe? If so, then it can give legs to the mirror universe theory and that smokie and Jacob are two halves of a whole. A good and a bad, or a dark and a light.

Can anyone answer the Hurley question????????? Any ideas????

I don't know, but I'm with Jeremy and a lot of other folks Hurley is pure of heart, that's what makes him unique. The one thing he has in common with the other Losties is he also had "daddy issues" although he was mostly hurt by his father's neglect, he wasn't really bitter or angry like most of the others. He will be a key that will unlike a big puzzle box I think. And I'm like you notso we get so caught up in these other characters we seem to forget how unique and important Hurley is. Also your your questions are good and valid but I really don't know to much about the mirror universe. Do you mean "opposite universe" when you say "mirror universe"? you know left becomes right up become down etc.?

boutte
05-12-2009, 02:11 AM
Why would the people in the other universe have that ability. And wouldn't the mirror Hurley be able to communicate with this one?

notsolost42
05-12-2009, 02:14 AM
I don't know, but I'm with Jeremy and a lot of other folks Hurley is pure of heart, that's what makes him unique. The one thing he has in common with the other Losties is he also had "daddy issues" although he was mostly hurt by his father's neglect, he wasn't really bitter or angry like most of the others. He will be a key that will unlike a big puzzle box I think. And I'm like you notso we get so caught up in these other characters we seem to forget how unique and important Hurley is. Also your your questions are good and valid but I really don't know to much about the mirror universe. Do you mean "opposite universe" when you say "mirror universe"? you know left becomes right up become down etc.?

I think it's just that exact, unique quality of innocense that Hurley has that may give him the ability. It's like they say children can "see" the other side and are more open to supernatural experiences than adults that have cluttered minds. As for a mirror universe, it's not that it's the exact opposite, but rather a duplicate that works a little differently. One universe effects the other.

chester
05-12-2009, 02:21 AM
What suggests that Dave is any different to the others?

sirchin
05-12-2009, 02:22 AM
I think it's just that exact, unique quality of innocense that Hurley has that may give him the ability. It's like they say children can "see" the other side and are more open to supernatural experiences than adults that have cluttered minds. As for a mirror universe, it's not that it's the exact opposite, but rather a duplicate that works a little differently. One universe effects the other.

Yes I see your point. Not that Hurley's childlike in an i.q. stand point, but his mind doesn't over complicate or over think things. And I don't think he's insane or losing his mind at all like he sometime thinks, remember crazy people don't think there going crazy they think they are getting more sane.

notsolost42
05-12-2009, 02:27 AM
Yes I see your point. Not that Hurley's childlike in an i.q. stand point, but his mind doesn't over complicate or over think things. And I don't think he's insane or losing his mind at all like he sometime thinks, remember crazy people don't think there going crazy they think they are getting more sane.

Absolutly. He is by far, not crazy! He battles his personal demons, as we all do, and I think that Dave is a manifestation of his personal demon. Perhaps thrown in the mix by TPTB to confuse us! Hahaha! Like we needed anything else! But seriously, there is a big difference between Dave, his food motivated "friend" and him seeing and speaking all our dead losties. Oh, I just realized I forgot to include Mr. Eko in the group.

boutte
05-12-2009, 02:32 AM
Why would the people in the other world even know about the goings on in this one much less concern themselves with communicating with Hurley. Odds are they wouldn't even know who he is.

notsolost42
05-12-2009, 02:34 AM
Why would the people in the other world even know about the goings on in this one much less concern themselves with communicating with Hurley. Odds are they wouldn't even know who he is.

But it's all the same people in both worlds. However, in one world, the plane did not crash, Ana Lucia, Eko, Libby, and all are alive. Hurley is just sensative to be able to communicate with them from the other world! They are dead in the world that we are watching...mostly.

meiyoki
05-12-2009, 02:50 AM
i agree Hurley is "pure" . He did not need a second chance from the island. Like a child he is not clouded by his self centerness . He can see what is really there, not what he wants to see or what he thinks he should see.

boutte
05-12-2009, 02:53 AM
But it's all the same people in both worlds. However, in one world, the plane did not crash, Ana Lucia, Eko, Libby, and all are alive. Hurley is just sensative to be able to communicate with them from the other world! They are dead in the world that we are watching...mostly.

But the people in the other world would be leading their own lives with no knowledge or interest in this one. Why for instance would Charley be telling Hurley what do in this world when he wouldn't know anything about what happened to him or any of the others. 815 would just be another uneventful flight he took a couple of years before and he wouldn't remember Hurley at all.

Turnip Queen
05-12-2009, 09:28 PM
Hurley's very honest and a lot more open to unusual things than some others on the island.

sirchin
05-13-2009, 01:56 AM
i agree Hurley is "pure" . He did not need a second chance from the island. Like a child he is not clouded by his self centerness . He can see what is really there, not what he wants to see or what he thinks he should see.

Very good description of Hurley! BTW your avitar weirds me out dude!

notsolost42
05-13-2009, 02:04 AM
But the people in the other world would be leading their own lives with no knowledge or interest in this one. Why for instance would Charley be telling Hurley what do in this world when he wouldn't know anything about what happened to him or any of the others. 815 would just be another uneventful flight he took a couple of years before and he wouldn't remember Hurley at all.

Not necessarily true. What happens in one mirror world effects the other mirror world even though they are distant from each other!

huntsy7
05-13-2009, 12:24 PM
Not necessarily true. What happens in one mirror world effects the other mirror world even though they are distant from each other!

notso, you should watch Fringe. They're doing a lot with multiple dimensions right now and I think you would enjoy it.

Ozma
05-13-2009, 07:17 PM
I wonder if Dave isn't Libby's dead husband. That was his name.

huntsy7
05-13-2009, 08:25 PM
I wonder if Dave isn't Libby's dead husband. That was his name.

Brilliant idea!

http://www.lost.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9257