The whereabouts of Jack, Sawyer, and co.

[Jeremy]

We all know that they are "currently" in 1977, but what about 2007? Do they exist in that time at all after 316 lands on the island?

I think that they would be somewhere. That is, if they don't all die like Richard said they did.

What has me wondering are the flashes that have moved the Losties through time. It would seem to the time travellers that they go from one time to the other instantly, but to outsiders, they vanish(and they don't see the flash, either. Oddly enough it seems they do hear the sound it makes when past Locke vanishes in 'Follow the Leader').

Ben turns the wheel in 2004, and ends up Tunisia so many months later in 2005. Did he not actually exist between those two time periods?

I wonder, if the Losties aren't anywhere on the island in 2007, perhaps one of the flashes took them out of existance in 1977 and won't let them exist again until sometimes during or after 2007. Thus, Jacob won't be needed to help bring them back...well, unless he controls them, but it could also be the island itself that does it...

Does anyone get the point I'm trying to make?

[thatguycraig]

We all know that they are "currently" in 1977, but what about 2007? Do they exist in that time at all after 316 lands on the island?

I think that they would be somewhere. That is, if they don't all die like Richard said they did.

What has me wondering are the flashes that have moved the Losties through time. It would seem to the time travellers that they go from one time to the other instantly, but to outsiders, they vanish(and they don't see the flash, either. Oddly enough it seems they do hear the sound it makes when past Locke vanishes in 'Follow the Leader').

Ben turns the wheel in 2004, and ends up Tunisia so many months later in 2005. Did he not actually exist between those two time periods?

I wonder, if the Losties aren't anywhere on the island in 2007, perhaps one of the flashes took them out of existance in 1977 and won't let them exist again until sometimes during or after 2007. Thus, Jacob won't be needed to help bring them back...well, unless he controls them, but it could also be the island itself that does it...

Does anyone get the point I'm trying to make?

i get the angle ure pitching yea - when you think of it like that - then i suppose that the losties cease to exist in the current time when they travel.... ben for example traveled forward - that means that he would dissapear in 2004 and only randomly apperar in 2005 - so in that sense the losties could randly appear in 2007 - but i dont think that will be the case.

I have always said that i think that there is only one entity per person - (richard excluded) and if the losties went back to 1977 then they cannot appear in any other time - which is the way that the makers have pitched it..... but remember locke seein himself and tellin richard to go help him?? why would that be in my theory? maybe it is cause locke is special? or could it mean that if the 1977 losties flashed back to 1954 again for example, or to 2007 - could they all go and find them selves? or is my one entity per peron theory correct and the writers made a mistake? or is Locke just special?!!!!""?"£$!"£!!!????????!

[Gettingafixonlost]

We all know that they are "currently" in 1977, but what about 2007? Do they exist in that time at all after 316 lands on the island?

I think that they would be somewhere. That is, if they don't all die like Richard said they did.

What has me wondering are the flashes that have moved the Losties through time. It would seem to the time travellers that they go from one time to the other instantly, but to outsiders, they vanish(and they don't see the flash, either. Oddly enough it seems they do hear the sound it makes when past Locke vanishes in 'Follow the Leader').

Ben turns the wheel in 2004, and ends up Tunisia so many months later in 2005. Did he not actually exist between those two time periods?

I wonder, if the Losties aren't anywhere on the island in 2007, perhaps one of the flashes took them out of existance in 1977 and won't let them exist again until sometimes during or after 2007. Thus, Jacob won't be needed to help bring them back...well, unless he controls them, but it could also be the island itself that does it...

Does anyone get the point I'm trying to make?

My idea about the time travel is that one time period can be parallel to another (if John had gone to John instead of Richard it would have freaked him out too much, he had to send someone else, and had to be someone he trusted). Sawyer and the rest in 77 are where they are in their present and where they were in their past (which is the future), as Miles explained to Hurley where they are in 77 is their present, but it is everyone else's past. While they are in 77 they are not in the present day (with Ben and Sun etc.) because their present is 77. Well they are in Sun and Ben's present somewhere (unless dead by then) but older? Like if Jin is still alive and on the island and met up with Sun, Jin would be 30 years older.

Another thing about Ben and Locke's return to the "real world". It took John 3 years (3 years comes up a lot), yet it took Ben less time. I think because he didn't turn the wheel all the way because he had a specific time he wanted to enter the "real world" so he could kill off Widmore's men (actually have Sayid do it for him) and Penny. Because Ben didn't turn the wheel all the way (wasn't locked into place) it kept bouncing, hence the time traveling begins for the remaining losties.
As far as where were Ben and John after turning the wheel (the time they seemed to have lost), I think is just that...time lost. Maybe that is why Richard is so young, he skips through time? I Need to give more thought on that one and see how it would fit, or if it could fit.

Footnote....Has anyone else noticed the Dharma symbols look a lot like the wheel of time at the Orchid. And those symbols were in use before the wheel was found. The lines in each section on the Dharma wheel symbol are not identical either, maybe each section of the wheel is a specific path that can be taken within a time period? Hmmmmm...just a thought.