View Full Version : Aaron being raised by Kate
snow24
02-22-2008, 01:58 PM
anyone else wondering more and more about what that physic guy said? He warned Claire that her baby must not be raised by another, he was so insanely passionate about it, its like the world would end if she didn't raise the baby. Now we see that Kate is raising him, do you think this is going to be significant, or the guy jut didn't want the others to get Aaron, and he didn't see anything in the future with Kate raising him.
justme
02-22-2008, 02:04 PM
I think it will be significant. Aaron is special and he must have some abilities from being born on the island
LostFreak21
02-22-2008, 02:05 PM
Maybe Jack is afraid of Aaron.
justjoe
02-22-2008, 02:23 PM
The guy also said he was a fraud.
Dharma Initiate 815
02-22-2008, 02:26 PM
I think the psychic's predictions are going to definetly play into Aaron's story. He said no one else must raise him. He made it out to sound like he would turn evil it she didn't.
heavensprincess
02-22-2008, 02:29 PM
I thought he only said he was a fraud to protect his daughter when Ecko came out to investigate.
jacksnurse
02-22-2008, 02:39 PM
i think and have been saying that i think that Claire will die in s4....i think that maybe Kate ends up taking him off the island....maybe jack doesn't want to see Aaron because he feels guilty for Claire's death and feels somehow responsible...i dunno...just a guess..the pyschic was a supposed fraud but he really saw into the future with claire and it scared the S##T outta him
justjoe
02-22-2008, 02:45 PM
My point is don't believe everything he says. Hey Hevensprincess. You getting blasted with snow down there?
snow24
02-22-2008, 02:47 PM
Yeah I think he really saw into Claire's future, but I'm torn as to what he saw. Especially if he was a fraud with everyone except Claire, he may have interpreted what he saw wrong. Maybe he saw the baby with someone other than her, and the evilness he saw was Claire's death. I guess I just don't want to see Aaron be some evil freak baby. lol
Dharma Initiate 815
02-22-2008, 02:50 PM
I agree I don't want Aaron to be some freak either. I mean look how cute he looke at age 2 last night!
heavensprincess
02-22-2008, 02:52 PM
My point is don't believe everything he says. Hey Hevensprincess. You getting blasted with snow down there?
Yes and i'm pissed i was suppose to leave for loon a few hours ago...is it bad up that way??
justjoe
02-22-2008, 02:56 PM
That sucks. Good luck. There are cars off the road everywhere. It started snowing this morning and it is getting slippery now. About an inch so far. The real heavy stuff will be coming down after lunch so leave now. We will be getting 4-7 inches. Should be good skiing though.
beachblinkette
02-22-2008, 03:14 PM
If Kate was really pregnant by Sawyer on the island, could Aaron be Sawyers son and could that be why Jack doesn't want to see him? Perhaps the other Aaron is still on the island with Claire. It wouldn't be tooo much of a stretch to have Kate raising her own son whom she named after the baby she was most exposed to on the island?If Claire and Aaron died. then Kate has survived and her son is a namesake in honor of one who didn't survive.
heavensprincess
02-22-2008, 03:17 PM
If it's Kates baby he should only be an infant. Someone said I think it was Matthew Fox who confirmed they are only like a year and a half in the future.
justjoe
02-22-2008, 03:19 PM
Exactly HP. That is what Fox said in an interview so the baby would definitely be an infant.
LostFreak21
02-22-2008, 03:45 PM
I thought he only said he was a fraud to protect his daughter when Ecko came out to investigate.
That is right
ortrules
02-22-2008, 03:50 PM
I've always maintained that we were led to believe he said not to let Aaron be "raised by another" and what he actually meant was "raised by an other"
The others hadn't come into much play during the first season when that flash back took place, so we would all naturally think "another"
LostFreak21
02-22-2008, 03:53 PM
The baby looks to be around 2 to 2 1/2.
beachblinkette
02-22-2008, 03:54 PM
Well there goes another theory out the window. That would make Aaron about the right age if so. So what does Jack have to fear or regret if he sees Aaron?
ortrules
02-22-2008, 04:00 PM
So what does Jack have to fear or regret if he sees Aaron?
My thinking is that something really bad happens to Claire. Jack tries to work his magic and fix her, but for the first time, he fails and she dies.
This would no doubt incredibly impact Jack, who has always been seen as the hero and has been able to cure anyone - as seen with his surgery for his ex-wife and Ben. No doubt that Aaron would be a terrible reminder of how Jack failed.
snow24
02-22-2008, 05:12 PM
There are cars off the road everywhere. It started snowing this morning and it is getting slippery now. About an inch so far
an inch and cars off the road, lol I feel bad for you people who live in the south who get snow once ever couple years. Actually, wait, I envy you, get me out of this lake effect snow prison known as Cleveland!
agmic
02-22-2008, 05:26 PM
What if Kate had a kid before the crash ?????
snow24
02-22-2008, 05:29 PM
What if Kate had a kid before the crash ?????
I was thinking this when her lawyer was saying he wanted to call her son to teh stand. -The baby she picked up and called Aaron looked about 2, how could he have gone to the stand to be a character witness?:confused:
heavensprincess
02-22-2008, 05:40 PM
I was thinking this when her lawyer was saying he wanted to call her son to teh stand. -The baby she picked up and called Aaron looked about 2, how could he have gone to the stand to be a character witness?:confused:
I don't think he wanted to call him to the stand. He wanted him in the court room for sympathy.
snow24
02-22-2008, 05:45 PM
yeah i guess that makes more sense, but she was so against it, why would she be so against him just being there, unless the theories that Darma are after Aaron are true.
7894561230
02-22-2008, 05:46 PM
I dont think that the Phycic was worried about the others raising aaron, because if you remember, the phycic said that Claire had to raise the baby herself, then all of a sudden, the phycic said that he changed his mind, and found a family for the baby, but that she HAD to take the flight that he had arranged for her (flight 815) to meet the people... it HAD to be that flight.
The Phycic knew that Claire would crash, and problably die. He was not preventing the baby from being raised by the others, he was trying to eliminate the baby and/or Claire.
My guess is that your initial guess was correct, aaron may grow up to be someone very bad.
heavensprincess
02-22-2008, 05:48 PM
yeah i guess that makes more sense, but she was so against it, why would she be so against him just being there, unless the theories that Darma are after Aaron are true.
I think she just didn't want him exposed to all the media. Think thats why she made that comment about keeping him away from the t.v. All the media attention..seeing mommy on t.v. in handcuffs or whatever.
snow24
02-22-2008, 06:01 PM
I think she just didn't want him exposed to all the media. Think thats why she made that comment about keeping him away from the t.v. All the media attention..seeing mommy on t.v. in handcuffs or whatever.
I see what your saying, I just have a feeling there is more to it. The lawyer seemed to feel like it was her only option to stay out of jail time, so what would be worse, Aaron not having a mom and going into a foster care, or being in front of the media. I guess i could just be looking into it too much.
thelawgiver
02-22-2008, 06:03 PM
What is interesting is that Kate's mom, wanted to see "her grandson" like she beloved it was Kate's natural baby and not one she necessarily os raising (like Claire's). So there must be some lie about this being Kate's baby.
beachblinkette
02-22-2008, 06:23 PM
That sounds very possible, thanks.:)
heavensprincess
02-22-2008, 06:30 PM
What is interesting is that Kate's mom, wanted to see "her grandson" like she beloved it was Kate's natural baby and not one she necessarily os raising (like Claire's). So there must be some lie about this being Kate's baby.
Yeah I think Kate's mom believes that baby is hers. Kate's protecting that baby from someone or something. It looks like the best way to do it is pretend he is hers.
mrstooge8it2
02-22-2008, 07:12 PM
Well here goes... can Claire be in the coffin? Yeah, yeah yeah I know what the newspaper clipping said... but maybe it can explain if Kate is rasing Aaron (Claire's kid) then it would explain why she said Why would I go... if she obtained Aaron by nefarious ways then she wouldnt want to go.
I can punch holes in this theory very quickly, but I just wanted to say it anyway
Vincent_the_Dog
02-22-2008, 07:54 PM
I believe it is Ben in the coffin.
islander
02-22-2008, 08:06 PM
IMO kate is the worst potential 'mom' of all the survivors. she's selfish, a liar, a minipulator, a fugitive, etc.... poor aaron.
Dzbabykel
02-22-2008, 08:14 PM
IMO kate is the worst potential 'mom' of all the survivors. she's selfish, a liar, a minipulator, a fugitive, etc.... poor aaron.
Oh c'mon no ones perfect and having a child can change people....give Kate some credit :)
RynG78
02-22-2008, 08:26 PM
She is one hot Momma and she seems to love the little guy.
Hawaiian420
02-22-2008, 08:35 PM
I don't think that Claire dies at all. Desmond had the vision of Claire boarding a helicopter. And at the end of the last episode Ben told Sayid something about if he wants to keep his friends alive then he needs to keep working for Ben. So I think Jack doesn't want to see Aaron because it will remind him that they left a lot of their friends on the island while they are back in civilization.
iptydafoo
02-22-2008, 08:41 PM
I believe it is Ben in the coffin.
... couldn't be Ben in the coffin, Sayeed works for Ben in the future... 'member
snow24
02-22-2008, 08:46 PM
could still be Ben, the Sayid scene could have taken place before the Jack and Kate scene at the airport, we just know that the scenes within each episode are in chronological order, we dont know that episode to episode, let alone season to season.
iptydafoo
02-22-2008, 08:46 PM
I don't think that Claire dies at all. Desmond had the vision of Claire boarding a helicopter. And at the end of the last episode Ben told Sayid something about if he wants to keep his friends alive then he needs to keep working for Ben. So I think Jack doesn't want to see Aaron because it will remind him that they left a lot of their friends on the island while they are back in civilization.
Yeah... but Desmond also said that if anything changed from what he invisioned, then the future will change. Since he didn't let the booby trap kill charlie... the future changed. You'll recal him being very upset regarding his decision to save Charlie at that point.
iptydafoo
02-22-2008, 08:50 PM
could still be Ben, the Sayid scene could have taken place before the Jack and Kate scene at the airport, we just know that the scenes within each episode are in chronological order, we dont know that episode to episode, let alone season to season.
... sure, it could be... but I think we are starting to see that Ben is an important person on and off of the island. i doubt his funeral would be held at a run down funeral home in LA.
Vincent_the_Dog
02-22-2008, 09:00 PM
It also seems that Ben has multiple personnas (looks like he is a veteranrian in Berlin). If he is a small time operator in L.A., he could certainly have his funeral there. Kate looked disgusted when she read the obituary. Who else does she hate that much?
Hawaiian420
02-22-2008, 09:03 PM
Yeah... but Desmond also said that if anything changed from what he invisioned, then the future will change. Since he didn't let the booby trap kill charlie... the future changed. You'll recal him being very upset regarding his decision to save Charlie at that point.
Didn't Charlie still die? So his vision didn't change at all. IMO, if he would have succeeded in his attempt to save Charlie then his invision would have changed. I just think that a lot of them are still alive but maybe being held captive by Ben somewhere.
iptydafoo
02-22-2008, 09:13 PM
It also seems that Ben has multiple personnas (looks like he is a veteranrian in Berlin). If he is a small time operator in L.A., he could certainly have his funeral there. Kate looked disgusted when she read the obituary. Who else does she hate that much?
... Michael.
mirizarry716
02-22-2008, 09:24 PM
I don't believe Claire is alive. I cannot see Claire letting Aaron go w/out her. I truly believe that Claire doesn't survive & maybe she asks Kate to care for him (maybe she was there when Claire took her last breath). Maybe Claire does get on the helicopter, along with the other Oceanic 6 & for some reason dies before she makes it home. Jack probably feels responsible (he does have that GOD complex) & that's why it's hard seeing the baby. I don't think new guests on the island are the ones who save them/bring them home either.
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