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BenIsTheMan
05-12-2009, 10:37 PM
Do you think it's a coincidence that the actor (31 y/o Keir O'Donnell) who played Tom (Aaron's dad in the flashback) looks EXACTLY like a younger Ben would look? What a co-wink-ee-dink? The fact that they are using an obvious wig on Ben (Michael Emerson--the older Ben's portrayer) might question what I am proposing. The actor who played the young Thomas (Keir O'Donnell) in 2008 was involved with 8 films and in 2009 was involved with 7 films might mean that he wasn't contractually available to play Ben in the "younger" Ben in scenes for this season.

More circumstantial evidence:
We know that there are at least 3 ways to get to the Donkey Wheel (DW): We first saw it when Ben blew up the Chamber (A), then through the well (B) and the third was wherever Christian came from (C).

A) The Dharma Initiative (DI) didn't know about the DW. They had a chamber built at what they thought was the center of the source of the (I will call it) Time Energy (TM). Why didn't they dig deeper/farther? Simply, they thought they were near the core and feared explosion, and they never imagined an ancient culture that used a DW. This is common sense.

B) The Well Entrance was graphically shown in all the time jumps. We saw John injured at the bottom of the well as he was caught mid Time-Jump and ended up talking with Christian, who told him what to do.

C) We know that Christian had to come to the DW from someplace. It wasn't the well, because it was filled-in at the time John landed at its bottom. We know that the Dharma "time" chamber was not from where Christian came---hadn't been dug or blown up.

The Hostiles discovered the DW a long time ago and they became The Others after they offed the DI. What we saw was that Ben knew about the DW and he knew he didn't have the time to go to The Other entrance, so he blew up the Chamber. He knew that the DW was in the area. He also knew that he would have to axe through ice and that it would be cold, and dressed accordingly.

Ben had used the DW to travel into the future, maybe many times. He met Claire, fell in love etc., etc., and fathered Aaron. On purpose or by accident, I don't think that matters for this theory. He wanted to stay there (in his future with Claire), but knew he couldn't. He told Claire that he "can't do this". He couldn't do this because there was a bigger issue---he wanted to stay, but couldn't.

Ben had a penchant for children. He wanted to be a better father than his own father and when he refused to follow the orders to kill Alex, he showed this. He "adopted" her and loved her as his own. I think one of the reasons they took the children from the Tail Section group was to protect them from all the crap to come.

Ben told Kate regarding Aaron, "He's not YOUR child" (meaning, "he's MY child". He worked hard to keep Aaron off the island when he knew that Kate had to go back. The Others kidnapped Claire and her unborn to make sure the child was born. He knew that his child was on the flight.

He also had a plan for when the Oceanic plane crashed. Within seconds of the plane coming down, he sent Ethan and Goodwin to the crash sites and ordered them to get a list of survivors. Why would he do this if it was a surprise. He knew that pregnant Claire was on the flight, but didn't know where her seat was and which section she came down in.

I can go on, but I want some constructive feedback because this may be a crucial point in the upcoming events. Waddaya think?

when am i?
05-12-2009, 10:46 PM
Completely disagree.
I don't think Ben would have gone off island to have kids cos that is why he had Widmore banished.
Claire never remembered him or mentioned anything.

rock-lobster
05-12-2009, 10:56 PM
yeah, that's not happening. there are way too many logical holes in that idea.

ortrules
05-12-2009, 10:56 PM
Ben was born the 60s, and Tom was around just a few months before Flight 815 crashing. If they were the same, Tom would have been the Ben we all know today, not a Ben that is 10 years younger.

HawkINHawaii
05-12-2009, 11:02 PM
Ben was born the 60s, and Tom was around just a few months before Flight 815 crashing. If they were the same, Tom would have been the Ben we all know today, not a Ben that is 10 years younger.

I think he's saying ben traveled into the future from the 80's or so to father Aaron and then went back.

Either way Ben is not Aarons father

bunnydixon
05-12-2009, 11:10 PM
hey we had a thread about him possibly being bens son rather than ben lol!!

when am i?
05-12-2009, 11:23 PM
Doubt it cos as far as we know Ben has never had a girlfriend(except Annie)or a wife or kids.

bunnydixon
05-12-2009, 11:27 PM
Doubt it cos as far as we know Ben has never had a girlfriend(except Annie)or a wife or kids.

well that explains so much.

ben needs to get laid ;)

JohnQ
05-13-2009, 12:11 AM
Ben's personal ad:

SWM,40ish virgin, mother died in childbirth, murdered my father, orchestrated a purge,
ISO nice SWF who likes ham, guns, knives, long walks in the jungle, ice caves, visiting
Tunisia, time traveling, and kids. Mind games acceptable. Friends first possible LTR.

notsolost42
05-13-2009, 12:24 AM
That's the silliest dang thing I ever heard....well, then again, maybe not....Vincent is Jacob tops it! Ben is too old to be Tom in 2004 or even late 2003 if that was when Claire conceived. But that would be one heck of a loooonnngggg pregnancy!

mhzmike
05-13-2009, 02:36 AM
about an all new "LOST"....

suppose I told you that Ben and Locke are actually brothers...as in Good Twin, Bad Twin the novel that appeared in "LOST"...more to come

notsolost42
05-13-2009, 02:39 AM
about an all new "LOST"....

suppose I told you that Ben and Locke are actually brothers...as in Good Twin, Bad Twin the novel that appeared in "LOST"...more to come

I'd say people have speculated that since we found out that they both had mothers named Emily. That's not new....what else ya got?

smthng2dowthlost
05-13-2009, 02:46 AM
Their moms don't exactly look a lot like each other and I believe ones dead in the mid sixties(how old is ben) and we see the other in when locke works at the toy store. It could be a con but I don't think so unless that's the worst private detective in the world.

notsolost42
05-13-2009, 02:50 AM
Their moms don't exactly look a lot like each other and I believe ones dead in the mid sixties(how old is ben) and we see the other in when locke works at the toy store. It could be a con but I don't think so unless that's the worst private detective in the world.

I think Mike is goofing about it! It's so crazy to think that Ben is Aaron's father!! My guess is he's just joking around....

5starboss
05-13-2009, 06:44 PM
Doubt it cos as far as we know Ben has never had a girlfriend(except Annie)or a wife or kids.
BensGAY
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Completely disagree.
I don't think Ben would have gone off island to have kids cos that is why he had Widmore banished.
Claire never remembered him or mentioned anything.
i agreewith your disagreement, but not b/c of that reason. It wouldn't surprise me if Ben did the same thing that got Widmore exiled. Ben does have a plethra of Visa's and world currencies at the ready in his closet.
Ben's personal ad:

SWM,40ish virgin, mother died in childbirth, murdered my father, orchestrated a purge,
ISO nice SWF who likes ham, guns, knives, long walks in the jungle, ice caves, visiting
Tunisia, time traveling, and kids. Mind games acceptable. Friends first possible LTR.
haha 2 funny man

LostFreak21
05-13-2009, 07:19 PM
Aaron doesn't have beady eyes!

when am i?
05-13-2009, 09:30 PM
BensGAY
705


i agreewith your disagreement, but not b/c of that reason. It wouldn't surprise me if Ben did the same thing that got Widmore exiled. Ben does have a plethra of Visa's and world currencies at the ready in his closet.

haha 2 funny man

Sure but that is for other purposes,not necessarily to have kids.
Besides the heaviest evidence against that is...
why didn't Claire remember him?
Surely she would have said something to him or someone else.

bunnydixon
05-13-2009, 09:47 PM
they can have different mothers and still be brothers.

when am i?
05-13-2009, 10:13 PM
Yeah,Cooper could have knocked-up Ben's mom instead of Roger.
Anyway I'm off home now to get ready for the finale of the year.
Maybe that will reveal if Locke has any brothers or sisters after all.