Any evidence that earlier eps had a time traveling Locke?

[jlazarus]

I haven't gone back to watch, and plan to this summer, but in my mind (maybe made up, who knows?) there were always certain 'holes' surrounding Locke's whereabouts....missing for days, etc....

Is it possible that we will see, in season 6, that Locke was actually time traveling in earlier eps, that the Locke we were shown in certain eps, was actually a future (or past, depending on one's viewpoint) "Locke" ?

Going back to one of the very first eps, right after the plane crashed, there were certain things about Locke that made me think.....hmmm...and those thoughts have always stayed with me. I look forward to re-watching those this summer and seeing if I can catch anything! :)

[smthng2dowthlost]

his faith in the island wavered so much that I can't really see him having more knowledge then we thought back then.

[jlazarus]

his faith in the island wavered so much that I can't really see him having more knowledge then we thought back then.

I agree with that point, as far as the original "locke that just landed on the island" goes...

But were we seasoned a bit with bits of a time traveling Locke every now and then?

For example, when Locke goes out with Boone and originally found the Beechcraft, didn't he seem to find it very easily? Meaning, we the audience didn't know he was going to find an airplane, but in that ep, I recall that he was on a mission of sorts, and then sort of went right to it?

Again, I have NO evidence of this whatsoever! Was just thinking aloud via my fingertips, if you will! :)

[chester]

Yes, I noticed that in some scenes he seems to be very confident and all knowing - like we see him now. And at other times he's more like the Locke we see in the flashbacks. Didn't really think too much of it at the time, but could well be that some of the Locke's we saw in earlier seasons is actually the 'future' Locke, come back.

[notsolost42]

I haven't gone back to watch, and plan to this summer, but in my mind (maybe made up, who knows?) there were always certain 'holes' surrounding Locke's whereabouts....missing for days, etc....

Is it possible that we will see, in season 6, that Locke was actually time traveling in earlier eps, that the Locke we were shown in certain eps, was actually a future (or past, depending on one's viewpoint) "Locke" ?

Going back to one of the very first eps, right after the plane crashed, there were certain things about Locke that made me think.....hmmm...and those thoughts have always stayed with me. I look forward to re-watching those this summer and seeing if I can catch anything! :)

A possible clue to that may be something I just discovered in season 3, first episode I think. It's when Locke awakens in the jungle after the Swan imploded. If you look at the screen cap and compare it to the screen cap of Jack laying the jungle after he flashed out of the Ajira flight in 316, they are quite similar in appearance. More than a little. There must be a reason for that. I am also beginning to wonder if Jack and John are half brothers...but that's for another thread.

[etfrompo]

i just rewatched the Season One episode where they find Adam and Eve in the caves and I noticed the expressision on Lockes face is a half smile that made me think he knew more than he was lettng on.

[chester]

Maybe he's just consciously traveling back in time. Sometimes.

[Lost Down Under]

Good point. When I re-watched the first series again awhile ago, I noticed that John Locke has a compass. Is this the same compass that he and Richard have been passing back and forth to each other in Series 5?

[chester]

Good point. When I re-watched the first series again awhile ago, I noticed that John Locke has a compass. Is this the same compass that he and Richard have been passing back and forth to each other in Series 5?

No, I think that's a different compass. There are pics of the different compasses in one of the compass threads. The one Locke had ealier in the show, was a more modern looking one. Unless there are other times he has been shown with a compass, other than this?

[Lost Down Under]

erm, I'm not sure. I can't remember the episode in series 1 where John had a compass, but I seem to remember that there were 2 instances.....wasn't Sayid playing with one as well? Did he take it apart? Is this the same compass that was screen capped?

I also remember Sayid saying something to Jack in S1 about the compass that it wasn't pointing north (or something along those lines). I thought it was interesting that Richard said to John in S5 that the compass "still knows how to point north".

But I do think it could be possible that John in 2004 could be be swapping every now and then with a future John Locke. And bringing a compass with him! But ach, I have been wrong with everything else I have thought about this show so far! I mean, I was convinced at one point that Vincent was Jacob (just kidding)

[chester]

I think the one Sayid had was a modern one too. And yeah it was about 90 degress off (mirror world evidence??).

It is quite possible that Locke has been seen with the magic compass before we see the loop causing exchanges. I just can't recall, nor has anyone posted pics, I don't think. It is a fairly distinctive compass.

There is more to Vincent than meets the eye....

PS. Are you and your kids able to levitate?

[LostFreak21]

We talked about this before but it has been awhile so you guys wouldn't have seen it. I think Locke in different episodes is time traveling back. In one scene Jack falls off a cliff and is hanging on with one hand and is about to fall. Who walks up out of no where but Locke and saves him. Locke wan't anywhere around at the time. He just knew Jack was going to be there. A couple other things that were said in the Hatch between Jack and John as if they had been there before.

[saturna]

well just a thought!
its been said on here in quite a few threads about an "alternate reality",or a mirrored world.
im begining to think that this is spot on,ie: instead of the time traveling locke we get the uber confident locke we see and the doubting thomas locke we see,actually 2 different lockes we r seeing!,not time travel at all.

also In a flashback scene i think for mr ecko,we see ben linus processing people onto the original flight to the island,and yet ben linus was on the island attending a book club meeting and watched the plane break apart and crash?, 2 bens?

too many more to mention while at work hehe, thoughts?

[jlazarus]

Yes, I noticed that in some scenes he seems to be very confident and all knowing - like we see him now. And at other times he's more like the Locke we see in the flashbacks. Didn't really think too much of it at the time, but could well be that some of the Locke's we saw in earlier seasons is actually the 'future' Locke, come back.

That is one of the observations that led me to think this in the first place. That and other strange behavior ;)

[jlazarus]

A possible clue to that may be something I just discovered in season 3, first episode I think. It's when Locke awakens in the jungle after the Swan imploded. If you look at the screen cap and compare it to the screen cap of Jack laying the jungle after he flashed out of the Ajira flight in 316, they are quite similar in appearance. More than a little. There must be a reason for that. I am also beginning to wonder if Jack and John are half brothers...but that's for another thread.
Cool info! That cap of Locke is from the ep "Further Instructions" I think. I agree, interesting shot there. Brothers? Hmmmm.....I look forward to that thread!

[Lost Down Under]

I think the one Sayid had was a modern one too. And yeah it was about 90 degress off (mirror world evidence??).

It is quite possible that Locke has been seen with the magic compass before we see the loop causing exchanges. I just can't recall, nor has anyone posted pics, I don't think. It is a fairly distinctive compass.

There is more to Vincent than meets the eye....

PS. Are you and your kids able to levitate?

Why yes, it does look like that doesn't it?! ha, actually we are jumping off a sandbank at the beach.

[chester]

I think the one Sayid had was a modern one too. And yeah it was about 90 degress off (mirror world evidence??).

It is quite possible that Locke has been seen with the magic compass before we see the loop causing exchanges. I just can't recall, nor has anyone posted pics, I don't think. It is a fairly distinctive compass.

There is more to Vincent than meets the eye....

PS. Are you and your kids able to levitate?

Why yes, it does look like that doesn't it?! ha, actually we are jumping off a sandbank at the beach.

Up on the Sunshine Coast?

[notsolost42]

Cool info! That cap of Locke is from the ep "Further Instructions" I think. I agree, interesting shot there. Brothers? Hmmmm.....I look forward to that thread!

I watched that rerun last night on sci-fi with Locke. As soon as I saw the screen shot of him laying there I freaked out! I started looking for all the screencaps online. It is pretty strange! And yes, brothers...could be....Christian did mess around, that's a fact we already know and he was not supposed to marry Margo. So......ya never know!

Say, one other question...why is the dialogue of this thread suddenly being steered to that damned compass again? Aren't there enough compass threads for those people? :)