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Vegeta
05-13-2009, 01:23 PM
Don't know if this has been said or not. But when we first heard Jacob say the words "Help Me", we all presumed he was talking to Locke because he heard it. But is there any chance he could of been talking to Ben (Jacob already knowing that in the future Locke will try and kill him)

Just a thought

BensBaby
05-13-2009, 02:31 PM
That is interesting. However, I don't think that Ben heard Jacob say anything. When Ben shot John and he fell into the pit with all the Dharama dead Ben asks John what did Jacob tell you. John said Help Me. I don't know if Ben took that as John asking for help or that is what Jacob said.

beachblinkette
05-13-2009, 02:59 PM
Don't know if this has been said or not. But when we first heard Jacob say the words "Help Me", we all presumed he was talking to Locke because he heard it. But is there any chance he could of been talking to Ben (Jacob already knowing that in the future Locke will try and kill him)

Just a thought

This has intrigued so many of us!! The faceless ethereal Jacob saying in an anguished and plaintive voice Help me has always made me think he was a captive victim. He didn't seem to want to hurt John, but he definitely got hostile with Ben. I wonder if Jacob is some form of "John" and the crashing stuff in the cabin was because 2 John's too close to each other might create unstable matter just like the 2 bunnies. This is why Christian had to meet with John and has guided him instead? When "John" tries to kill "Jacob" will he be destroying himself? I don't read every thread so this may be have been hashed out already.....

losttime
05-13-2009, 03:41 PM
That is interesting. However, I don't think that Ben heard Jacob say anything. When Ben shot John and he fell into the pit with all the Dharama dead Ben asks John what did Jacob tell you. John said Help Me. I don't know if Ben took that as John asking for help or that is what Jacob said.

Ben originally thought Locke was asking for help. When Ben first asked Locke what did Jacob say, locke said "Help me". Ben, thinking Locke was asking for help, told John he wasnt playing around or something and said something to the effect of you heard him what did he say? Locke again saidsomething like "He said 'Help Me'" Thats when Ben kinda shuddered a little and said something like "I certainly hope he helps you" somehting like that. So yes at first he thought Locke was asking for help than realized thats what Ben said. And no, Ben did ot hear Jacob say "Help Me"

Gettingafixonlost
05-13-2009, 03:52 PM
Don't know if this has been said or not. But when we first heard Jacob say the words "Help Me", we all presumed he was talking to Locke because he heard it. But is there any chance he could of been talking to Ben (Jacob already knowing that in the future Locke will try and kill him)

Just a thought

I personally never thought of it that way, and because Ben is such a liar he could have been lying to Locke that he didn't hear him. I think it is a plausible theory. Maybe Ben just wanted to know if John heard him as well. Another thing is the way Ben reacted to Jacob getting all poltergeisty in the cabin, he grabbed the chair and shook it, telling him that was enough (or something to that effect), almost like he was superior to him or something.

abcd1234
05-13-2009, 03:55 PM
maybe he was saying "healthy"

hogwild96bob
05-13-2009, 04:21 PM
maybe he was saying "healthy"

Sonny, health is the greatest thing in the world. Except for a nice DMLT, a dharma mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the dhama mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky, I love that. But that's not what he said. He distinctly said "to blave." And, as we all know, "to blave" means "to bluff." So you're probably playing cards, and he cheated --

abcd1234
05-13-2009, 04:35 PM
Liarrrrrr

I read they cast jared fogle as jacob

Jaystar™
05-13-2009, 04:43 PM
Liarrrrrr

I read they cast jared fogle as jacob

Come on now this isn't very nice, there's some people who don't want to know Spoilers.

abcd1234
05-13-2009, 04:45 PM
sorry dude.

I meant, its possible jacob could be played by one of the following:

mayor McCheese
jared fogle
colonel sanders

lostie108
05-13-2009, 05:42 PM
5 dollar foot long mmmmmmmmm

snow24
05-13-2009, 09:08 PM
who said that Jacob said "help me" It could have been someone else speaking to John, maybe the island, or smokie. Whenever John says he was told to do something, he says the island told him, not that Jacob told him.

FanFiltration
05-13-2009, 09:14 PM
Sonny, health is the greatest thing in the world. Except for a nice DMLT, a dharma mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the dhama mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky, I love that.

I'll have a DMLT, but needs to have Hurley's garlic mayo on it to be "The Greatest". :p

abcd1234
05-13-2009, 09:45 PM
who said that Jacob said "help me" It could have been someone else speaking to John, maybe the island, or smokie. Whenever John says he was told to do something, he says the island told him, not that Jacob told him.

I totally agree. I would have said "exactly" but there is a minimum character requirement for a post.

when am i?
05-13-2009, 10:21 PM
But both Ben and Locke think it was Jacob who spoke.
I doubt if Ben heard him,cos when Locke first answered him he didn't get it and asked him again.
If he had heard it,he wouldn't have asked John a second time,unless that was part of his deception too.

Unbridled Pageantry
04-20-2010, 01:01 AM
Liarrrrrr

I read they cast jared fogle as jacob

hahaha, I love your thought process that what was said was "Healthy." and therefore Jarod from Subway is going to be Jacob.
Well done sir.
:)

locke_is_the_key
04-20-2010, 08:58 AM
1. Ben never heard anything, only Locke.
2. It was MIB, not Jacob. Foreshadowing, as Locke did indeed help MIB.