View Full Version : So John Dead???
wvugurl
05-14-2009, 04:17 AM
Ok my guess this mysterious guy at the beginning is actually in Johns body?? -Since they rolled dead John out on the beach-So does that mean all the other "dead" people on the island are really dead and someone else is taking over their body??
littleredman
05-14-2009, 04:18 AM
Maybe it's some kind of spiritual possession and the whispers are disembodied phantoms.
MrEchoLives
05-14-2009, 04:19 AM
Either that or,IMO, the guy at the beginning AND locke are both only forms being taken on by the smoke monster
initiative
05-14-2009, 04:20 AM
absolutely christian, locke, and smokie are all the same entity the anti-jacob.
sirchin
05-14-2009, 04:21 AM
Ok my guess this mysterious guy at the beginning is actually in Johns body?? -Since they rolled dead John out on the beach-So does that mean all the other "dead" people on the island are really dead and someone else is taking over their body??
what mysterious guy?
MisterDee
05-14-2009, 04:21 AM
Am I the only one who thought Jacob ressurrected John when he fell....it looks like he was dead then he touches him and John wakes up.
ortrules
05-14-2009, 04:22 AM
I think the guy from the beginning is now the Smoke Monster. Smokie is the only thing on the island (that we know of) who can take the shape of other people. If John is dead and inside a crate, nothing took over his body. Instead, something created a new body.
Not to mention, Smokie told Ben (through Alex) that Ben must follow Locke. Locke leads Ben to kill Jacob. Therefore Smokie leads Ben to kill Jacob. So Smokie and Locke are the same.
XmasDVD
05-14-2009, 04:22 AM
Am I the only one who thought Jacob ressurrected John when he fell....it looks like he was dead then he touches him and John wakes up.
..yep agreed. Jacob is GOOD
wvugurl
05-14-2009, 04:23 AM
the guy at the beginning of the show who wants to kill jacob..
yes that was weird the way he touched him and bam john is awake
1hourisntlongenough
05-14-2009, 04:23 AM
Am I the only one who thought Jacob ressurrected John when he fell....it looks like he was dead then he touches him and John wakes up.
I thought the same...that's how it looked anyway
Croft250
05-14-2009, 04:24 AM
Am I the only one who thought Jacob ressurrected John when he fell....it looks like he was dead then he touches him and John wakes up.
I thought the same thing. It definitely looked like Locke had died and Jacob touched his shoulder and brought him back to life.
CFerd
05-14-2009, 04:31 AM
does anyone realize that this means Locke has been dead since "The Life and Death of Jeremey Bentham" haha. Oh how they tricked us!!!
stockman_12
05-14-2009, 04:31 AM
So smokie can take the shape of more than one person at a time. IN the temple with Alex and Locke was above
dharmabum
05-14-2009, 04:45 AM
So smokie can take the shape of more than one person at a time. IN the temple with Alex and Locke was above
So it would seem. Either that or Smokie shapeshifted from Locke form to Alex form and back again.
scottie D
05-14-2009, 04:49 AM
I must be alone but I think Jacob was evil. The ship sailing in at the beginning was tied to him. Jacob created a cult around the mysterious powers of the island. He manipulated a lot of people into his corner. I am not saying smokie is good, but he was protecting, I believe, the sacradness of the island. When Jacob said they are coming I think he meant the cult followers who found Lockes body. I think the game involves Jacobs cult against the Gods or whatever they are that encompass the smoke monster. Will time change? I don't know but I think Ben will have his memories of all that has happened and become the hero we all see in him :)
capt'n caveman
05-14-2009, 04:50 AM
does anyone realize that this means Locke has been dead since "The Life and Death of Jeremey Bentham" haha. Oh how they tricked us!!!
Now I"m gonna have to rewatch this season and pay close attention to everything "Locke" said and did to see the relivance.
wvugurl
05-14-2009, 04:51 AM
I must be alone but I think Jacob was evil. The ship sailing in at the beginning was tied to him. Jacob created a cult around the mysterious powers of the island. He manipulated a lot of people into his corner. I am not saying smokie is good, but he was protecting, I believe, the sacradness of the island. When Jacob said they are coming I think he meant the cult followers who found Lockes body. I think the game involves Jacobs cult against the Gods or whatever they are that encompass the smoke monster. Will time change? I don't know but I think Ben will have his memories of all that has happened and become the hero we all see in him :)
i just started a thread questioning this
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