" They're coming "

[faradaygeek2342]

These were Jacobs last words. who's they? At first I thought Ilana, or the others. But I think that he might mean Jack, Kate, Miles, Sawyer, Juliet, Hurley, Jin, and Sayid. We know that Jughead didn't do what they hoped for one simple reason: Sun and Lockes body are on the island in 2007. If 815 never crashed, then things shouldn't be the way they are iun 2007. Maybe Jughead sent them back to the correct time.

[LissaMarie]

I agree that Jacob meant Sawyer, Kate, Jack, et al. I think that is why they showed him 'choosing' them in the past by touching each of them. I noticed that he asked Ilana to help him but he never touched her. I think that might mean that he wasn't 'choosing' her but needed her to assist in bringing one of his 'chosen ones' (Sayid) back to the island.

I believe that the white-out at the end of the episode wasn't Jughead exploding but the EM causing a time flash. I think that was the same "time" that Jacob made the comment "they're coming". I really think they are going to be reunited in time in Season 6 and the war will be fought. Just my thoughts at this point!:)

[7forever]

Copied from another lost fan...

For lack of a better name right now, let's call Jacob's enemy "Esau" like a lot of people seem to be doing. My theory is that both Jacob and Esau are some sort of lesser gods. Jacob is good and Esau is evil. Esau wants Jacob dead, but he himself cannot kill him because "the rules" won't allow it. At some point in time, Esau is held captive in the cabin. It's actually Esau's cabin we've been seeing, NOT Jacob's. Jacob lives in the shadow of the statue. The volcanic ash around the perimeter of the cabin is what held Esau captive. The eye we kept seeing belongs to him, not Jacob. Esau can only take the form of corpses.

That's why he uses Christian as a vessel. When Ben took Locke to meet who he thought was Jacob, he actually took him to Esau. Locke broke the ash perimeter thereby allowing Esau to escape. Esau whispered "help me" to Locke because he needed his help to find the loophole that would allow him to kill Jacob. All of the messages that Locke received (to move the island, that he must die, etc.) we're from Esau NOT Jacob. When Locke's body was returned to the island, Esau was able to possess it (or at least mimic it). This allowed him access to Ben, Richard, etc. all the tools Esau needed to gain entry to Jacob's lair. Esau/Locke was able to manipulate Ben into wanting to kill Jacob. Ben took the bait. Jacob is dead. Richard was right. Locke wasn't special. He was a pawn used by Esau to infiltrate the Others. Now Jacob is dead and Esau has what he wanted. That's about it. What do you think?

[Desi420]

Copied from another lost fan...

For lack of a better name right now, let's call Jacob's enemy "Esau" like a lot of people seem to be doing. My theory is that both Jacob and Esau are some sort of lesser gods. Jacob is good and Esau is evil. Esau wants Jacob dead, but he himself cannot kill him because "the rules" won't allow it. At some point in time, Esau is held captive in the cabin. It's actually Esau's cabin we've been seeing, NOT Jacob's. Jacob lives in the shadow of the statue. The volcanic ash around the perimeter of the cabin is what held Esau captive. The eye we kept seeing belongs to him, not Jacob. Esau can only take the form of corpses.

That's why he uses Christian as a vessel. When Ben took Locke to meet who he thought was Jacob, he actually took him to Esau. Locke broke the ash perimeter thereby allowing Esau to escape. Esau whispered "help me" to Locke because he needed his help to find the loophole that would allow him to kill Jacob. All of the messages that Locke received (to move the island, that he must die, etc.) we're from Esau NOT Jacob. When Locke's body was returned to the island, Esau was able to possess it (or at least mimic it). This allowed him access to Ben, Richard, etc. all the tools Esau needed to gain entry to Jacob's lair. Esau/Locke was able to manipulate Ben into wanting to kill Jacob. Ben took the bait. Jacob is dead. Richard was right. Locke wasn't special. He was a pawn used by Esau to infiltrate the Others. Now Jacob is dead and Esau has what he wanted. That's about it. What do you think?

I think this is the best so far. Although I think it was Hugo who was the one that broke the ashes. When he saw the mystery eye, he stumbled back and fell, crawling away.
Having just seen "No place like home". I have come to have a feeling about Jacob and Anti Jacob's relationship. While as Christian he is speaking to Locke with Claire in the cabin. He asks what Locke is there for. Locke says that he wants to know how to save the Island. Christian looks over at Claire and she gives a slight nod with a smirk.
Now if the cabin was sealed with the ashes, could that mean that it was actually Jacob that was making the moves up to now that got the man in black his chance. Kind of like playing chess with a friendly rival.

[faradaygeek2342]

These were Jacobs last words. who's they? At first I thought Ilana, or the others. But I think that he might mean Jack, Kate, Miles, Sawyer, Juliet, Hurley, Jin, and Sayid. We know that Jughead didn't do what they hoped for one simple reason: Sun and Lockes body are on the island in 2007. If 815 never crashed, then things shouldn't be the way they are iun 2007. Maybe Jughead sent them back to the correct time.

It just came to me. They're coming means that hell will break loose. Now that Jacob is dead, all the creatures will go crazy. For example the black smoke and the hurley bird. What if Jacob had a hold on the island that held all of the forces intact? Think of it like the plagues. I also have a feeling that Jughead just sent 77 people back to 2007, and didn't prevent the crash. The war is going to be Un Locke vs. Jacobs legacy. The legacy is the forces of the island. Ben will probably be with Un Locke at first. It's also possible that the others will split.

[STUARTSMOM]

I Like This Theory. Makes Sense. I Don't Agree With One Thing Though, The Part About John Not Being Special. John Is Absolutely Special And He Is So Coming Back To Life Next Season (don't Know How) To Save The Day...just Watch!

[alanfxu]

I Like This Theory. Makes Sense. I Don't Agree With One Thing Though, The Part About John Not Being Special. John Is Absolutely Special And He Is So Coming Back To Life Next Season (don't Know How) To Save The Day...just Watch!

woah. so IN JACOBS DEATH, maybe now Jacob will reincarnate and posses real Locke.... and this epic conflict will be team good locke vs. team bad locke.

[axleman1011]

i agree that jack and everyone will be going back to there time (because the big flash was a time falsh) but i theink that jacob ment someone is coming to the island, if i had to guess i'd say desmond and penny, have something to do with it, and maybe even arron...

[wiley]

woah. so IN JACOBS DEATH, maybe now Jacob will reincarnate and posses real Locke.... and this epic conflict will be team good locke vs. team bad locke.

If Jacob did spread his powers around through his touch, and these powers reunite when our 1977 Losties arrive. Jacob then has two bodies to choose from, his own or the original Locke. If he chooses his own then we have Jacob vs. Locke. If he chooses the original Locke then its Locke vs. Locke (seems like this would be confusing).

Unless the fake Locke gives up his ruse and tries something else. Then it's Jacob(Locke) vs. ?.
It's very ambiguous but I think if Jacob reincarnates he will choose his own body.

[mcgarnigle]

I like the idea of two lockes battling it out with the losties trying to decide which locke to align with.

the one with ben on his side? I don't think so.

[7forever]

I think this is the best so far. Although I think it was Hugo who was the one that broke the ashes. When he saw the mystery eye, he stumbled back and fell, crawling away.
Having just seen "No place like home". I have come to have a feeling about Jacob and Anti Jacob's relationship. While as Christian he is speaking to Locke with Claire in the cabin. He asks what Locke is there for. Locke says that he wants to know how to save the Island. Christian looks over at Claire and she gives a slight nod with a smirk.
Now if the cabin was sealed with the ashes, could that mean that it was actually Jacob that was making the moves up to now that got the man in black his chance. Kind of like playing chess with a friendly rival.

I only wish I had written it...:p

[7forever]

I think this is the best so far. Although I think it was Hugo who was the one that broke the ashes. When he saw the mystery eye, he stumbled back and fell, crawling away.
Having just seen "No place like home". I have come to have a feeling about Jacob and Anti Jacob's relationship. While as Christian he is speaking to Locke with Claire in the cabin. He asks what Locke is there for. Locke says that he wants to know how to save the Island. Christian looks over at Claire and she gives a slight nod with a smirk.
Now if the cabin was sealed with the ashes, could that mean that it was actually Jacob that was making the moves up to now that got the man in black his chance. Kind of like playing chess with a friendly rival.

That's an interesting theory but I really hope they are not one in the same.:mad:

[Panda]

I think this is the best so far. Although I think it was Hugo who was the one that broke the ashes. When he saw the mystery eye, he stumbled back and fell, crawling away.
Having just seen "No place like home". I have come to have a feeling about Jacob and Anti Jacob's relationship. While as Christian he is speaking to Locke with Claire in the cabin. He asks what Locke is there for. Locke says that he wants to know how to save the Island. Christian looks over at Claire and she gives a slight nod with a smirk.
Now if the cabin was sealed with the ashes, could that mean that it was actually Jacob that was making the moves up to now that got the man in black his chance. Kind of like playing chess with a friendly rival.

Yes adding this to the theory that 7forever posted, it sounds good.

So in fact It is Jacob that brought Hurley to the Island and this makes it that his rival is released from being trapped in the cabin.
What is nice as well is that indeed Locke asked what he had to do to "save the Island".
But he never went into detail about what he meant by "saving the Island" or "what he wanted to safe the Island from".
Now this dark guy wants to save the Island from being damaged by people.
And in his opinion it is Jacob that brings in the people each time. So from his point of view the only way to save the Island from being destroyed by people is to make sure that Jacob dies and so never ever be able to invite new people again.
So it might be that Christian was talking on the behalf of the Dark guy.

But indeed I have questions...
What happened to the body of the dark guy as we see it in the opening scene?
When did it disappear or got lost? So that in his cabin ...he is invisible as long as he is trapped in there?
And that he can only take forms of other people that are dead...but he can't get his own body back..
So where did his body go? Has he died? And is it only his so called soul that is still around on the Island? Did he got killed buy someone?
Is Richard maybe the one that killed him...and trapped his ghost in the cabin?
And in return to that he got an "ageless" body from Jacob?

[[T]he[L]amppost]

I believe that the white-out at the end of the episode wasn't Jughead exploding but the EM causing a time flash. I think that was the same "time" that Jacob made the comment "they're coming". I really think they are going to be reunited in time in Season 6 and the war will be fought. Just my thoughts at this point!:)

I agree that is was a time flash, and that the losties will be sent back to the future, but the bomb went off for sure. To everyone that thinks they'll change things or that the bomb didn't go off. It did. They caused the very incident they were trying to prevent. What ever happened, happened. End of story. Also in the most recent podcast, the producers said the bomb did go off. So that's that.

i agree that jack and everyone will be going back to there time (because the big flash was a time falsh)

And to you, read the above response, and shut up. Also I hate you. :)

[seeknay2012]

If you recall the tapestry Jacob was weaving on the loom, (they only showed it for a hot second) you would see that it actually tells a story in heiroglyphics. It appears to be something decending from the heavens. I think it is the Anunnaki: the Gods who left them to gaurd the island. After all this time "He" didn't think "they" would return. That's why "He" had that look on his face when Jacob told him: "They are comming".

[t33h33]

I think this is the best so far. Although I think it was Hugo who was the one that broke the ashes. When he saw the mystery eye, he stumbled back and fell, crawling away.
Having just seen "No place like home". I have come to have a feeling about Jacob and Anti Jacob's relationship. While as Christian he is speaking to Locke with Claire in the cabin. He asks what Locke is there for. Locke says that he wants to know how to save the Island. Christian looks over at Claire and she gives a slight nod with a smirk.
Now if the cabin was sealed with the ashes, could that mean that it was actually Jacob that was making the moves up to now that got the man in black his chance. Kind of like playing chess with a friendly rival.

Yeah I wondered about claire and christain. Who's to say the way claire looked is very similar to locke's and christians smiry look? so maybe they were in the cabin together. Notice jacob say's 'you have a choice'. Ben was taken to the temple and healed (we dont know if he was fully dead when he arrived) but lets say esus transended into his body? then once ben killed locke into his. But Im sure that has already been mentioned. I just think there is something very odd between claire and christain for someone who's hanging with their dad theyve never met and only seen once. She seems abit too calm and happy yknow?

[realrasslinfan]

Ok, the Hurley breaking the ashes and Locke hearing the voice are both after the Christian wandering around stuff.

So...I don't know either :)

[lilsev42]

I LIKE THE THOERY AND WERE THIS THREAD IS GOING,I'M KINDA LIKE YOU GUYS ABOUT CLAIRE AND CHRISTIAN,LOkCE DID JUST SAY HE WANTED 2 SAVE THE ISALND (SO THE ANTI-JACOB BLAMES HUMANS FOR ALL THE WRONGS SO YES THAT IS HOW HE WOULD WANT IT DONE.I JUST CAN'T SAY THAT CLAIRE IS DEAD,COULD BE(OR COULD BE THE NEW LEADER)I'VE JUST THINK THE WAY SHE WAS ACTING WAS LIKE UNDER A SPELL OR ENCHANTMENT.These are gods that are playing chess or backgammon at our highest stakes.I guess you could say that they are playing risk( since tney took the war abroad and like Hurley said Australia is the key,man.That stays in my mind about them playing the game of risk and just listening to them the seem to be talkin g about what 's going on then on the island.Great job guys and gals .I hope I can help as much as you help me.

[losttime]

I have been leaning towards Ilana and crew. They apparently are the ones that knew about the Island and Richard before ever getting there. There is morwe to there story than we know. We do know they are with Richard and were there to show him that the Locke he was talking to was not Locke at all. I was reading on DocArtz site and it was talking about this as well and was also saying that they believe it is Ilana and company.
I am not saying that Doc Artz site or me are correct or that Kate Sawyer Jack and the rest of them arent going to be important but do we know which side they are going to choose? They might be angry with Jacob for bringing them to the Island that they go in oppositon to him? Or be fooled by Smokie, the guy in the black shirt or one in the same like I think they are. We dont know who they will fight with. Only time will tell.

[Nostradamus]

I actually think you are all correct, but that you are also missing something..

Did you ever think of the dead people? The island is very special..

I really don't think Charlie, Mr. Eko, Ana Lucia, Libby, Shannon, Boone and many others are out of the show yet.. I believe it will all come down to this last season, everyone coming back to the Island in current time..

I remember Hurley saying in the mental institution the second time, that he had just played chess with Mr. Eko.. It could be down to Hugo being crazy, but he had himself institutionalised at that time for seeing Charlie, so why should Mr. Eko be any different, and why is Hurley bringing a guitar on the plane with him put in the taxi by Jacob on his tour outside the island?

I believe Jacob WILL ressurect, in his own body, but John and the rest of the dead people will ressurect right along with him.. Juliet triggering the bomb in the past will set up a restart to the present bringing the dead back to life in my opinion.. The absurd mass of energy is Esau luring, and the computer is the way of holding him still.. Only this time Esau is free from his chains, the deeds he did as smokie has been undone and hunting season is up..

[3d-aholic]

I think the bomb did go off....however, I also think it was a time flash. BOTH.

I believe they will show us Jack die just like Richard Alpert said.
Then a few shows later, we will see Jack and the crew "flash" forward and ultimately the new Locke will be killed. How all that works,meshs together...I can't tell you.

[losttime]

I am sticking with Ilana, Bram and company since they were going to the Island to help Jacob out as was the topic of discusiion between Ilana and Jacob. Also, based on iLockes conversation with Richard about "taking care of" or something like that referring to the Ajira passengers that he seems them as a threat and thats why iLocked looked puzzled when jaco said they are coming. I think he knew what he meant and knew it was going to be a problem for him

[SpaceBar]

Personally I think Jacob gave Hurley the guitar case to make Hurley remember Charlie. Also wasn't there something in their conversation that gave the impression to Hurley that maybe something that happened doesn't always mean it stays happen-ed?

I could be wrong.

Also WHAT is in the guitar case? We've no reason at all to think it's just a guitar.

[realrasslinfan]

Also WHAT is in the guitar case? We've no reason at all to think it's just a guitar.

Maybe Charlie's guitar was in the case and it will travel back in time in season 6 where Charlie can find it in season 1...I don't know just speculating.

[losttime]

Maybe Jacob was referring to the people from Flashforward. LOL JK JK I figured I will add my idea of the shows joining , which I dont believe is the case. Just playing along

[Dead but Here]

Personally I think Jacob gave Hurley the guitar case to make Hurley remember Charlie. Also wasn't there something in their conversation that gave the impression to Hurley that maybe something that happened doesn't always mean it stays happen-ed?

I could be wrong.

Also WHAT is in the guitar case? We've no reason at all to think it's just a guitar.

I think it's a guitar. We have a guitar, and at the end of the season we have Charlie's ring. After Charlie died, there was some random quote somewhere that said the ring would be important. I was wondering if whatever that was had been dropped or something because we didn't see the thing again for two seasons.

[DarkPhoenix-24]

It would be sweet if Jacob resurrected in Charlie's body and with the pick of destiny, rocked the anti-Jacob to oblivion! Sorry I had a Jack Black moment there.... lol :p

Anywho, these theories get me thinking and I have a feeling this entire show will come around full circle. I think at the end, we will see destiny still wanted them on the island and the plane still crashes, etc.

[losttime]

It would be sweet if Jacob resurrected in Charlie's body and with the pick of destiny, rocked the anti-Jacob to oblivion! Sorry I had a Jack Black moment there.... lol :p

Anywho, these theories get me thinking and I have a feeling this entire show will come around full circle. I think at the end, we will see destiny still wanted them on the island and the plane still crashes, etc.


I couldnt agree more about the destiny of the characters. They didnt change anything and 815 crashes is what happened and thats it. I dont think its a loop that they will crash again on 815 but think that its being played out just not in chronological order.

So the things we saw in S5 is the first time its occuring. Just they are experiencing it presently but for the Isalnd its "old" news

[Refnu]

It would be sweet if Jacob resurrected in Charlie's body and with the pick of destiny, rocked the anti-Jacob to oblivion! Sorry I had a Jack Black moment there.... lol :p

Anywho, these theories get me thinking and I have a feeling this entire show will come around full circle. I think at the end, we will see destiny still wanted them on the island and the plane still crashes, etc.

Love the Jack Black reference. What if Locke was played by Jack Black? ... Wow what a show that would be!