He who.........sees the Dharma & the "wheel"

[lost_in_iowa]

I've caught onto something. I have been freeze framing the brain washing video. The "wheel of life" contrives from the quote, "he who plants a good seed will joyfully gather fruit". After looking this up, there are some other distinctions which relate to our show:
http://web.singnet.com.sg/~cswoon/wheel.html

"He who sees Dependent Arising, sees the Dharma."


IGNORANCE (avijja)
This Pali word "avijja" is a negative term meaning "not knowing completely" but it does not mean "knowing nothing at all." This kind of unknowing is very special and not concerned with ordinary ways or subjects of knowledge, for here what one does not know are the Four Noble Truths, one does not see them clearly in one’s own heart and one’s own life.

In past lives, we did not care to see 'dukkha' (1), so we could not destroy 'the cause of dukkha' (2) or craving which has impelled us to seek more and more lives, more and more pleasures. 'The cessation of dukkha' (3) which perhaps could have been seen by us in past lives, was not realised, so we come to the present existence inevitably burdened with dukkha. And in the past we can hardly assume that we set our feet upon the 'practice-path leading to the cessation of dukkha' (4) and we did not even discover Stream-entry. We are now paying for our own negligence in the past.

And this unknowing is not some kind of first cause in the past, for it dwells in our hearts now. But due to this unknowing, as we shall see, we have set in motion this wheel bringing round old age and death and all other sorts of dukkha. Those past "selves" in previous lives who are in the stream of my individual continuity did not check their craving and so could not cut at the root of unknowing. On the contrary they made karma, some of the fruits of which in this present life I, as their causal resultant, am receiving. Depending on the existence of unknowing in the heart there was volitional action, karma or abhisankhara, made in those past lives.

[boutte]

Thanks for the great link.

I'm not sure I understood how the quote in your post relates to the show but I'll give you credit for thinking in depth about some of the more obscure aspects of the story. I wonder though if the writers are going to want to get so deep that the majority of those watching will choose to tune into something easier to follow.

[lost_in_iowa]

yes, you are right. just thought it was interesting.

[Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid]

Originally Posted by lost_in_iowa

yes, you are right. just thought it was interesting.

Hey, Lost_in_iowa, I really love your pic avatar! Is that you? I love black and white photos! You should keep that one. It's very nice. Impressive.

[jacksnurse]

Originally Posted by lost_in_iowa

I've caught onto something. I have been freeze framing the brain washing video. The "wheel of life" contrives from the quote, "he who plants a good seed will joyfully gather fruit". After looking this up, there are some other distinctions which relate to our show:
http://web.singnet.com.sg/~cswoon/wheel.html

"He who sees Dependent Arising, sees the Dharma."


IGNORANCE (avijja)
This Pali word "avijja" is a negative term meaning "not knowing completely" but it does not mean "knowing nothing at all." This kind of unknowing is very special and not concerned with ordinary ways or subjects of knowledge, for here what one does not know are the Four Noble Truths, one does not see them clearly in one’s own heart and one’s own life.

In past lives, we did not care to see 'dukkha' (1), so we could not destroy 'the cause of dukkha' (2) or craving which has impelled us to seek more and more lives, more and more pleasures. 'The cessation of dukkha' (3) which perhaps could have been seen by us in past lives, was not realised, so we come to the present existence inevitably burdened with dukkha. And in the past we can hardly assume that we set our feet upon the 'practice-path leading to the cessation of dukkha' (4) and we did not even discover Stream-entry. We are now paying for our own negligence in the past.

And this unknowing is not some kind of first cause in the past, for it dwells in our hearts now. But due to this unknowing, as we shall see, we have set in motion this wheel bringing round old age and death and all other sorts of dukkha. Those past "selves" in previous lives who are in the stream of my individual continuity did not check their craving and so could not cut at the root of unknowing. On the contrary they made karma, some of the fruits of which in this present life I, as their causal resultant, am receiving. Depending on the existence of unknowing in the heart there was volitional action, karma or abhisankhara, made in those past lives.

LOL...i know how you feel ....i have posted in depth posts researching some of this....i have disappeared from this site for alittle...not sure if it was b/c of how busy i was or burn out for thinking toooo hard!!!! I will check this link once i have allowed my brain to wake up good thinkin' ...jacks

[lost_in_iowa]

Originally Posted by jacksnurse

LOL...i know how you feel ....i have posted in depth posts researching some of this....i have disappeared from this site for alittle...not sure if it was b/c of how busy i was or burn out for thinking toooo hard!!!! I will check this link once i have allowed my brain to wake up good thinkin' ...jacks

It's very thought provoking as our show is! It's making us learn about things we may have not thought about otherwise.

I enjoy all this research! I'm a lil obsessed but I suppose at least it's not hurting anyone

[jacksnurse]

no one else except u....lol...jj...really i have my moments where i theorize so much that i think im gonna blow...then i let loose and have fun to recooperate>>>>