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Old 06-16-2008, 11:07 AM
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Default been thinking about john and all...

...and late last night a thought popped into my mind. it's not complete by any means, however, i liked it, so i shall share it with you guys(and ladies)and see what you think. what if john comes to find out on the island that somehow, by turning the wheel, the island can go back in time. so john turns the wheel thinking that he can save all who died on the freighter and on the island when keemy showed up. so he turns the wheel but ends up being thrown 3 years into the future. so john visits the o6 and tells them that jin and claire and everyone else is alive once more. what doesn't settle well with this theory though is why he needs the o6 to go back and how john would get back. unless jacob or richard has his back on this. maybe he told jack everything and jack thought he finally had a way back to the island and claire, and that is why he freaked out when john died. any thoughts?
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:29 PM
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Interesting thought. It would all depend on the true powers of this wheel and how it moves the island.

But I will say, since Ben just moved the island, wouldn't he have already done that? I don't see how Ben could turn the wheel and not save everyone while Locke can...I imagine spinning the wheel is just spinning the wheel and you have no real control over where things end up.
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i agree with Ortrule. Ben would have gone back and saved Alex if he could, his heart overrules all other thoughts with him....thank god he has a very tiny heart with not much room for many people.
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i agree with Ortrule. Ben would have gone back and saved Alex if he could, his heart overrules all other thoughts with him....thank god he has a very tiny heart with not much room for many people.
maybe ben did put the island back in time ,hence saving alex, but since he could never go back, she may as well be dead to him. just thought of something crazy. what if the island went back to before the plane crashed?
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maybe ben did put the island back in time ,hence saving alex, but since he could never go back, she may as well be dead to him. just thought of something crazy. what if the island went back to before the plane crashed?

that's interesting. it would create a huge paradox, for the survivors would have memories of something that never occured; or have memories of what will occur if they get on the plane---which will change what happens on the island if even just one choses not to get on the plane---and and and. i hate time travel it gets so confusing.
i don't think they wheel can go back in time
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that's interesting. it would create a huge paradox, for the survivors would have memories of something that never occured; or have memories of what will occur if they get on the plane---which will change what happens on the island if even just one choses not to get on the plane---and and and. i hate time travel it gets so confusing.
i don't think they wheel can go back in time
if something can go forward in time, it can also go back. i think that tape john was watching while ben and he were in the orchid is a clue. remember when the tape began rewinding? and how haliwax said to never put metal objects in that elevator looking thing? maybe because this would make time go backwards, and they don't want that. imagine all the confusion? ben wasn't thinking straight. he even said so, remember? wait! maybe ben said 'i hope your happy jacob' because he is setting the island back in time to when jacob was still alive...
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what if john comes to find out on the island that somehow, by turning the wheel, the island can go back in time. so john turns the wheel thinking that he can save all who died on the freighter and on the island when keemy showed up. so he turns the wheel but ends up being thrown 3 years into the future. so john visits the o6 and tells them that jin and claire and everyone else is alive once more.
Can you clarify something please? You said that "jin and claire and everyone else is alive once more"- yet Locke never went back in time, he only thought that he could.

If he never went back in time why would anyone be "alive once more"?
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Can you clarify something please? You said that "jin and claire and everyone else is alive once more"- yet Locke never went back in time, he only thought that he could.

If he never went back in time why would anyone be "alive once more"?
my theory has changed since i wrote this thread. i think now that when ben turned the wheel, the island went back in time before 815 crashed, having there be 2 john's. the one on the island, and the young boy richard visits
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