So was Jacob actually Sobek, the crocodile god? Wikipedia says "Sobek's ambiguous nature led some Egyptians to believe that he was a repairer of evil that had been done, rather than a force for good in itself, for example, going to Duat to restore damage done to the dead as a result of their form of death. He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part." That IS the statue on the island, right?
So was Jacob actually Sobek, the crocodile god? Wikipedia says "Sobek's ambiguous nature led some Egyptians to believe that he was a repairer of evil that had been done, rather than a force for good in itself, for example, going to Duat to restore damage done to the dead as a result of their form of death. He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part." That IS the statue on the island, right?
That sounds right to me; Jacob had his little "It's your choice, but you really should do this" kind of scheme with everyone. But if he is Sobek, does that have something to do with the fact that he can speak fluent Korean, Hindu, etc.?
I think this is dead on. It really sums up Jacob's role as the "good guy" but not so good that he would stop, say, Syiad's wife from dieing... In fact one could say he is parially responsible. I think this coupled with the obvious biblical reference to Jacob and his brother pretty much some up what's going on here. I wonder if any more of Egyption mythology has a story of Sobek's more cruel counterpart.
From the same wikipedia article: "He was also shown with an ankh, representing his ability to undo evil and so cure ills". May explain how Ben was brought back into good health and how there just may be hope left that the evil will get undone. I watched the episode with two other people. We all felt like it looked like an alligator or crocidile statue. Also, the ankh was very prominant and large in the statues right hand in many shots.
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Sobek also replaced Seth in the Triad of Egyptian God. So im thinking Seth is who Jacob was probably speaking to at the begining of this episode. The loop hole is probably Seth trying to get revenge on Jacob or Sobek's reencarnation.
Sobek also replaced Seth in the Triad of Egyptian God. So im thinking Seth is who Jacob was probably speaking to at the begining of this episode. The loop hole is probably Seth trying to get revenge on Jacob or Sobek's reencarnation.
Wow, this could really be falling into place. From one website about Seth, it said, "Seth the Egyptian God is also known as the god of chaos. According to popular Egyptian mythology it would certainly seem that he created plenty of mayhem and chaos. Seth, god of chaos is also often associated with thunder, the desert and infertility. Tales differ in regards to whether Seth was evil from birth or became evil at some later point in history. It would appear that regardless of when it occurred, some of the ancient Egyptian people considered Seth the Egyptian god to be none other than evil incarnate.
I agree!
I think between wikipedia and lostpedia we can conclude the statue is indeed this Sobek/Alligator God. Since Jacob inhabits the statue... and considering the similar characteristics between Jacob and Sobek, I am pretty much sold on the idea.
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Wow, this could really be falling into place. From one website about Seth, it said, "Seth the Egyptian God is also known as the god of chaos. According to popular Egyptian mythology it would certainly seem that he created plenty of mayhem and chaos. Seth, god of chaos is also often associated with thunder, the desert and infertility. Tales differ in regards to whether Seth was evil from birth or became evil at some later point in history. It would appear that regardless of when it occurred, some of the ancient Egyptian people considered Seth the Egyptian god to be none other than evil incarnate.
Infertility? That's another key IMO. Women on the island weren't necessarily infertile but they did seem to have a problem living through child birth. That seems to be another unanswered question that the Seth theory could follow (symbolicaly of course). If Seth or Smokey or whoever doesn't have anything to do with it, the explanation should be interesting. It doesn't seem like 70s Darma people are havng problms squeezing out babies.
We'll see if the Lost story plays out like the mythology. If anything I think were on to a huge part of the symbolism in the last episode.
My Question is this: Jacob touches EVERYBODY but NOT Ben and said to him that he had a "choice". Everybody who Jacob touches seem to be destined to be on the island?
What does choice mean? Every decision shapes which probabilities are most likely to occur but everything about yourself up to that moment influences your decisions moment to moment. Limited free will is the assumption that free will and determinism coexist. There are other philosophers
who have argued that the concept of a limited free will is a cop-out because if there is an omnipresent god then no free will is possible and nor does randomness lead to free will."
Is Jacob the Alligator god, Sobek?
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