Smoke monster can only propagate through the gaseous phase
Ok....we already know that the smoke monster cannot cross the sonic fence.
The following theory is now proposed:
The smoke monster also cannot cross other similar boundaries, most specifically, "WATER" or "SOLID" boundaries. He can go "over" water...but he can't go "through" it. This is in connection with the fact that smoke is a "GAS".
Circumstantial Evidence
1. To call the monster, Ben basically releases a plug in a drain. Theres nothing special about this drain plug except that the basin is filled with water. I believe this releases the monster because it eliminates a vacuum displacement area that causes the water to drain from somewhere else. After the water is drained, the monster is released. Basically, Bens drain is a water fence switch.
2. The monster lives under ground basically in the drainage system it appears for the temple. This collaborates #1 that the smoke monster occupies the water/sewer drainage system.
3. The atomic bomb was stored underground completely sealed off except for a water passage. I don't believe the smoke monster can propage through anything but air... In other words, he cannot propage through solids or through liquids. I believe the sonic fence works in a similar fashion.
So essentially the bomb is not accessible by smokie and thus Mr.X and this is one of the reasons it was stored there. There was no other way into where the bomb was except to bust down a wall.
Ok....we already know that the smoke monster cannot cross the sonic fence.
The following theory is now proposed:
The smoke monster also cannot cross other similar boundaries, most specifically, "WATER" or "SOLID" boundaries. He can go "over" water...but he can't go "through" it. This is in connection with the fact that smoke is a "GAS".
Circumstantial Evidence
1. To call the monster, Ben basically releases a plug in a drain. Theres nothing special about this drain plug except that the basin is filled with water. I believe this releases the monster because it eliminates a vacuum displacement area that causes the water to drain from somewhere else. After the water is drained, the monster is released. Basically, Bens drain is a water fence switch.
2. The monster lives under ground basically in the drainage system it appears for the temple. This collaborates #1 that the smoke monster occupies the water/sewer drainage system.
3. The atomic bomb was stored underground completely sealed off except for a water passage. I don't believe the smoke monster can propage through anything but air... In other words, he cannot propage through solids or through liquids. I believe the sonic fence works in a similar fashion.
So essentially the bomb is not accessible by smokie and thus Mr.X and this is one of the reasons it was stored there. There was no other way into where the bomb was except to bust down a wall.
We call it a smoke monster but that doesnt mean its necessarily Smoke. Smokie is usually around when its raining and as far as I am concerned, the water is just a misdirection. I believe Christian is Smokie and was standing in the water staring in jacks direction. It can go between Islands unless there is a passage under the water but Iwill leave that open for debate. Charlie's appearance to me was an apparition of Smokie's so it can alos go off the Island. And the bomb was placed in that area before the DI built over it as Elise or Alpert mentioned so how they got the bomb there in the first place in no known unless they draggd it through the water which i doubt.
And Ben opening a drain can be explained as simple as it gets clogged and water drips into it over time. You try to communicate thru wtaer and tell me how that works out. We didnt see any sort of plug and if it is unable to go thru walls than why would the area that filled with water need to be filled since the area where Ben summons it is encased in earth anyway and a huge door that remains closed. I know you and others believe Smokie is bound by water but I just dont believe he is. I think it is bound by certain things, certain laws of physics maybe, but not water and since I dont think its actually "Smoke" per se that does not contradict with what I am saying about laws of physics.
We call it a smoke monster but that doesnt mean its necessarily Smoke. Smokie is usually around when its raining and as far as I am concerned, the water is just a misdirection.
Well it doesn't matter. The propagation of matter though gases, liquids and solids....is entirely different. Take sound itself for example.. So I'm not saying its smoke...but it has physical properties of smoke and has similar physical limitations as well.
I believe Christian is Smokie and was standing in the water staring in jacks direction.
Well you might BELIEVE that...but there is no proof for that at all in the actual SHOW. The person so far who has been demonstrated to be capable of shape shifting is MiB.
It can go between Islands unless there is a passage under the water but Iwill leave that open for debate.
It can go between islands on TOP of the water...so thats not really a big deal
Charlie's appearance to me was an apparition of Smokie's so it can alos go off the Island.
Once again...nothing in the show suggests this. It might be true...but nothing at all suggests it.
And the bomb was placed in that area before the DI built over it as Elise or Alpert mentioned so how they got the bomb there in the first place in no known unless they draggd it through the water which i doubt.
That doesn't mean it wasn't sealed off
And Ben opening a drain can be explained as simple as it gets clogged and water drips into it over time. You try to communicate thru wtaer and tell me how that works out. We didnt see any sort of plug
Rewatch the episode...Ben reaches his hand into the water and removes a plug at the bottom and the water drains...absolutely. You can briefly see the plug as the water drains. Can explain what? He's calling the monster.
and if it is unable to go thru walls than why would the area that filled with water need to be filled since the area where Ben summons it is encased in earth anyway and a huge door that remains closed. I know you and others believe Smokie is bound by water but I just dont believe he is. I think it is bound by certain things, certain laws of physics maybe, but not water and since I dont think its actually "Smoke" per se that does not contradict with what I am saying about laws of physics.
When it visits Ben for judging...we see it go through tiny drain holes....not directly through solid material. Why? If its not bound by solids, why not just come directly out of the rock?
I think you are caught up on the smoke thing. Electrons pass easily through solids and liquids but not as easily through air. We are talking about physical and chemical manifestations of matter. Whether its true smoke or magnetic particles same thing. Its easy to move magnetic properties through air because friction is low. Through liquids, friction would rise exponential and through solids friction would render any continuous movement of magnetic materials impossible. So forget smoke for a second, and lets say it is micro magnetic particles to which reflections and electromagnetic radiation can be mirrored off of it like a tv screen. In such case, the same phyisical matter limitations would exist.
And seeing smokie when its raining...so of enforces what I'm saying. The drainage system of the temple fills up with water...forcing smokie out of hiding. Rain in the atmosphere is not the same as a continuous solid. Its an air mist/aerosol so don't make the mistake of treating it as a continuous liquid. You can smoke from a fire as well in rain.
When it visits Ben for judging...we see it go through tiny drain holes....not directly through solid material. Why? If its not bound by solids, why not just come directly out of the rock?
I think you are caught up on the smoke thing. Electrons pass easily through solids and liquids but not as easily through air. We are talking about physical and chemical manifestations of matter. Whether its true smoke or magnetic particles same thing. Its easy to move magnetic properties through air because friction is low. Through liquids, friction would rise exponential and through solids friction would render any continuous movement of magnetic materials impossible. So forget smoke for a second, and lets say it is micro magnetic particles to which reflections and electromagnetic radiation can be mirrored off of it like a tv screen. In such case, the same phyisical matter limiatations would exist.
And seeing smokie when its raining...so of enforces what I'm saying. The drainage system of the temple fills up with water...forcing smokie out of hiding. Rain in the atmosphere is not the same as a continuous solid. Its an air mist/aerosol so don't make the mistake of treating it as a continuous liquid. You can smoke from a fire as well in rain.
I gues we will find out in Jan what Smokie really is than. Yet TPTB have said that Smokie has taken on physical appearances so whats your response to that
I'm still bored. He misses NAM. Can we get NAM back so he can argue with him.
I think you dont understand the difference between discussing and arguiing. I am discussing you are bing the argumentitive one with your " blinded" and "evidence" statements. Please dont try and turn this around on me.
The best explanation I've heard involves the idea that "the monster" is in some way a manifestation of the Island's electromagnetic properties animating tiny metal particles. This convinced me after I rewatched Ecko getting killed. His brother appears to him once and tells him to come to where his dead body is to be judged, when he gets there, he pretty much gets killed by smokie. The only difference is (other than what we see of Ecko in a flashback) that he finds his brother's cross. Other than the cross, Smokie/MiB/Yemi had no reason to delay the judgement. If you look at Ecko the first time I really don't think he's holding anything metal, but later...
Smoke monster can only propagate through the gaseous phase
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