After watching the Wizard of Oz the other night I cant help but think that what we are seeing is a dream of one of the Losties or as much as i dont like to think this possible several Losties are having dreams of landing back home following the detonation of the bomb.
We already know they referenced Henry Gale in Lost and so maybe they are taking the concept of the story of the Wizard of Oz and putting it into the story of Lost. I know I discussed this before but now in just a little more detail
Dorothy's story is her having a dream of ending up on a magical place after a Tornado caused debris to knock her unconscious and she dreams a whole elaborate story of how she gets get back home.
I am suggesting that on Lost its the same premise only reversed.
The Losties are in a magical place(the Island) and one or a few are dreaming the events of getting back to LA on flt 815 as they were led to believe would happen if they detonated the bomb as Faraday suggested. Eventually this person or presons will wake up realizing that they were only dreaming the events of safely landing at LAX and events surrounding their landing and will be back on the Island.
I know its out there theory and wouldnt have considered it if it wasnt for the fact that TPTB already used a character name from the movie and may have considered the idea to do this from the movie,
Bash it if you will. Its my theory and sticking to it until proven otherwise on the show or if someone can show me how it cannot be possible from what we know about the show.
So those who want to believe its an alternate world that is being suggested from the SPOILERS, believe it. I will believe its a dream, nothing more.
The episodes have been named to tell us something. "Dead is Dead" was telling us Locke was dead and we werent willing to accept it, well most believe he is dead now, until we saw JL's body dumped on the beach, and 2 for the road was telling us that 2 were going to die.
I believe there were other titles that had to do with what the episode was actually about, I just dont recall the names.
Same thing with "The Incident" I believe this was the Incident that Chang spoke of. Since all the timelines will join and most likely will be the most "present" date according to the characters true timeline, there will be no other dupicates of the characters like their would be if they were stuck in 1970s. Meaning the characters on the Island and the characters as younger kids back in the real world.
That being the case, we will not have the example of the Losties going through this again when the time on the Island goes to 2004 when they originally crashed on it but will all go to the time where iLocke, Ben, Lapidus, Ilana and the rest are in 2007.
We shall see.
__________________
TCC and does. Thats why we have clocks and watches.
that is interesting tho. We DO know, from VARIOUS references that Wizard of OZ has SOMETHING to do with the show. "Man behind the Curtain", Henry Gale and his hot air baloon, the "ruby slippers (red shoes) in "Flashes Before Your Eyes", "There is No Place Like Home", etc.
I have formed 2 opinions. The two other major references are Chronicles of Narnia and Wonderland. Oz and Wonderland are blatantly dreams, while Naria never actually states for sure that the kids are in a dream state, save Susan referring to it as a children's game in a later novel. If you go off of the "Tin Man" reference, the O.Z. is an alternate dimension. TPTB stated that the series will end "somewhere on the other side of the crab nebula".
So either A) the island itself is an alternate dimension that they crossed into when desmond didn't push the button
or B) SOMEONE is dreaming the whole thing from the start, or dreaming in season 6 like stated in this theory.
Faraday's research supports the alternate dimension theory. If Faraday's theory stands, then what happened in "The Incident" may have created a paradox. I know that TPTB said that there was no paradox in the timeline for season 5 BUT.....
According to Faraday's theory of true and false time and space, then by "resetting the timeline" it did not actually reset it, but create an entirely new timeline on top of the existing one, creating a paradox
Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof are both Executive Producers and Writers on Lost. Damon Lindelof is also one of the creators of the show. The following questions were submitted by members of the Lostpedia Forums, and by members of the Lostpedia wiki.
The interview was conducted by TheAma1 via phone on Friday 17 April 2009.
The following is a verbatim in medias res transcript made with the help of Kadaj.
Alex: About codenames: the first season codename was the Bagel and the second season I believe was the Challah. Any change the season six codename could be the Matzah?
Damon: The Matzah. Back to roots. Who knows? When you talk about the final scene of the series Lost, versus what is a season finale, I think the idea that normally those code names scenes are associated with big twists or suprises or shocks. We dont want to imply that the last scene of the series is going to be a game changer, like a snow globe, or somebody waking up from a dream, or a close up of the dog's eye, you know, all of those things... We might just go without a code name for the final year. We're gonna be purposefully cagey about that. Obviously, we reached out to the fans this year and gave them an opportunity to name the Season Five code scene and when they came up with 'The Fork in the Outlet' and voted on such, we feel like they did a very nice job... Alex we only probably have time for about two more questions.
This is not the first time that the executive producers of LOST have said that it is not a dream. Here's what they said about season 5 in this "...like the whole show was just a dream of somebody during the flight and it would suck."
Alex: Have you ever seen any theory that has come close to solving any major mysteries? Like the Smoke Monster or Jacob?
Damon: You know, the answer is not really, because... Sometimes, like for example, there were popular theories probably about a year ago, or maybe as long as two years ago, right around the time I guess Eko died. About the Smoke monster's function was some sort of judge. It basically took your memories and processed your life and decided whether you were worthy of living or not, and that is certainly, kind of, one of it's functions. We've dealt with that more specifically now on the show, but the audience simply does not know enough yet to make an educated guess about where all of this is leading. You will know a lot by the end of the Fifth season, probably a lot more to begin to get a much better sense of what the end game of the show may be, but we've had to hold a lot of that stuff back so that people wouldn't get it too early or that all the answers were coming in the penultimate season of the show. Considering what the audience has to work with, they've proven to be incredibly resourceful and insightful, but there are some clues that we have not yet presented them, that are really integral to figuring out what the real endgame of the show is, so there's no way that they could really, you know, really...
Alex: ...grasp...
Damon: ...get at it. Yes.
The whole theory that it is just a dream has been discissed and put to rest as not true.
Like I said. So far nothing that has been discussed here either the interview with Darlton or anyone else has not proven it not to be true.
TPTB are discussing the whole show as not being a dream. That is NOT what I am suggesting but this small part of it. Just like several on the show has had dreams on the Island. Ben himself says to Locke, "I used to have dreams too"
So my thinking is its not a matter of the whole show but a small piece of the puzzle.
This alternate timeline that is supposedly created does what? They leave the Island safely only to have to returm yet again?
It has that annoying case scenario of the movie The Titanic,
Where we haveDicaprio and Winslet keep getting chased below decks where we know they have to get back to the deck.
So this alternate timeline is going to be about them "somehow" knowing that they were on the Island to begin with and knew about each other and have to go back for their destiny?
We already know that the Isalnd is the bass of the story and that this is where the show is going to be mostly taking place.
So I am staying with this SPOILER actually just being a dream unless obviously proven otherwise on the show, and that they are really on the Island and the Losties in the 70s, the one that survive, are going to time-skip to the time of Ilana and that whole group where the timelines merge.
__________________
TCC and does. Thats why we have clocks and watches.
But, you must hate the alternate timeline even more than I thought you did.
Its not a matter of hating it as a matter of not seeing how it applies to the story. This show was about the characters. 5 yrs of investment into them and than to have it all taken away in the blink of an eye?
Than we have to contend with the fact that this alternate timeline is going to have the characters right back on the Island where they are supposed to be.
Or this group that lands safely back in Lax are not going back to the Island at all?
If thats the case no more show. They are all off the Island than.
We have this whole story that is being ignored.
Lets say it is an alternate world. Can someone who believes this tell me how thye are going to get back to this Island?
And since it has alredy been suggested by the alternate timeline theorist that they are aware of each other because Kate said hello to Hurley as she runs past him, than how will they go back knowing they worked sooo hard to get off it.
That was the purpose of detonating the bomb. To leave the Island and to forget it ever happened. That was Faraday's plan.
He suggested that destroying thr EM would cause them to not to crash on the Island but end safely back in 2004 at LAX.
__________________
TCC and does. Thats why we have clocks and watches.
Its not a matter of hating it as a matter of not seeing how it applies to the story. This show was about the characters. 5 yrs of investment into them and than to have it all taken away in the blink of an eye?
Than we have to contend with the fact that this alternate timeline is going to have the characters right back on the Island where they are supposed to be.
Or this group that lands safely back in Lax are not going back to the Island at all?
If thats the case no more show. They are all off the Island than.
We have this whole story that is being ignored.
Lets say it is an alternate world. Can someone who believes this tell me how thye are going to get back to this Island?
And since it has alredy been suggested by the alternate timeline theorist that they are aware of each other because Kate said hello to Hurley as she runs past him, than how will they go back knowing they worked sooo hard to get off it.
That was the purpose of detonating the bomb. To leave the Island and to forget it ever happened. That was Faraday's plan.
He suggested that destroying thr EM would cause them to not to crash on the Island but end safely back in 2004 at LAX.
It is entirely possible that the detonation of the bomb split time...biforcated it like a tree branch. So, the are in both places at the same "time." And if time biforcated in 1977 upon detonation of the bomb then when time progressed on the island afterwards it would have been different than it was before. And simultaineously, in 2004 the plane is landing at LAX. Oh, and just to set the record straight, the Kate saying hey to Hurley at LAX after they landed was not a suggestion by an alternate timeline theorist, it was a spoiler.
Yea, I wasnt saying that Kate saying "hey" to Hurley was made up by alternate timeline theorist but the fact that she said that means she remembers him from the Island, whic was suggested by alternate timeline theorists.
__________________
TCC and does. Thats why we have clocks and watches.
Wizard of Oz and a S6 Lost SPOILER
Linear Mode
