Hello Lost Fans! I've been viewing this forum for quite some time, but this is my first post. A lot of good stuff on here, I must say.
A theory, or rather an idea, popped into my head today. It needs A LOT of fleshing out, but I think it has some validity. Anything you can offer for its benefit, or its demise , would be nice. I'm also hoping this hasn't been discussed before. So here we go....
The Island is, in fact, the garden of eden. Here's what I got to back that up.
1. It appears that immortality is possible on the island, via Richard Alpert. Also, diseases are cured and injuries are healed, a la Locke and Rose. Sounds a lot like what the garden was supposed to offer humanity.
2. The island is hidden (for the most part) from humanity in some kind of time warp, as we were banished from it. Only those who know where to find it can find it.
3. The banishment can also account for why humans cannot reproduce on the island. We're not supposed to be there, and while it cannot stop others from entering, it can stop humans from reproducing.
4. The two bodies found way back in season one were referred to as Adam and Eve...perhaps Locke wasn't that far off...
5. The Bible speaks of a cherub with a flaming sword that was left in the garden to protect it. While it doesn't have a flaming sword, per se, this could be our good pal Smokey
Well, thats what I got. I should mention that I'm not a religious person and most of this came from some quick research on the web. Let me know what ya think!
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While I'm not a real religious person anymore, I am somewhat knowlegable when it come to scripture. And your right the story of The Garden of Eden
and the fall of man, do fall close to the storyline of Lost, or vise-versa I should say. Other people including myself noticed this a long time ago but the writer's have declared this is not true! But I must say they have borrowed from the Bible. On several occations. The latest I have noticed is the character Abbadon who is metioned in The Book Of Revolations. This show borrows from a lot of fictional and non fictional characters and events. We don't know where there headed for sure. At least I don't!
didnt they say some came from the bible-well something like that-xmas had a post a couple weeks ago or so about it...not saying it was the garden of eden but something about the bible and a college class
LOST is simply flowing over the brim with biblical references and parallels. Whether you are spiritual or not, I think we all can agree that the essence of nearly everything we read or watch, observe and live is, in a nutshell, the battle between good and evil, no? We get clues from lots of different sources, Bible, eastern religions, literature, screenplays... and all serve to make us think - sometimes too hard! AH! I need an Excedrin now!
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The Island is, in fact, the garden of eden. Here's what I got to back that up.
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The Garden of Eden theory is quite a popular one but I'm not sure I agree with it. Because....
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1. It appears that immortality is possible on the island, via Richard Alpert. Also, diseases are cured and injuries are healed, a la Locke and Rose. Sounds a lot like what the garden was supposed to offer humanity.
I think I'm correct in saying that the only person we have observed possessing a kind of "ageless" appearance is Richard. We don't actually know if it applies to anyone else, thus it may be something specifically to do with Richard himself rather than the island. As for the Garden of Eden, I think the original lack of disease and death was more to do with the fact that Adam and Eve were in a state of Grace, rather than receiving any kind of benefit from the garden itself. Illness, pain and hardship seem to stem from Original Sin and a turning from grace.
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2. The island is hidden (for the most part) from humanity in some kind of time warp, as we were banished from it. Only those who know where to find it can find it.
Yes, that's true enough.
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3. The banishment can also account for why humans cannot reproduce on the island. We're not supposed to be there, and while it cannot stop others from entering, it can stop humans from reproducing.
There's nothing in scripture to suggest that if humans ever re-discovered the Garden (assuming it is real and not a metaphor) that they would suffer from an inability to reproduce. I think according to scripture they would never get inside anyway as an angel was sent to prevent any entry to it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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4. The two bodies found way back in season one were referred to as Adam and Eve...perhaps Locke wasn't that far off...
Pretty hard to argue with that. It seems so obvious though, is it perhaps a red herring?
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5. The Bible speaks of a cherub with a flaming sword that was left in the garden to protect it. While it doesn't have a flaming sword, per se, this could be our good pal Smokey
That's an interesting comparison. But the angel's job was to prevent entry to the garden, wasn't it? Smokey is pretty inept if that's his role, as the island is practically swarming with people (Survivors, Others, Freighter People, etc).
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Well, thats what I got. I should mention that I'm not a religious person and most of this came from some quick research on the web. Let me know what ya think!
I think it's got as much chance of being right as any of the other theories proposed so far
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I also am leaning toward thinking the island is a parallel to the original Garden of Eden, but with some differences. I think it might be a life preserving, doomsday vault that will restore life when /if the Valenzetti theory comes true. But like you said, Eko's Echo, what provides protection has a drawback-no babies conceived there can survive.
The Dharma experiments with prolonged confinement, the multiple hatches, the Others village, the stores of food, the race to rule the island or gain control of it, the once-protective EM bubble, its mysterious elusiveness. Doesn't it seem to mean something very big is going to happen---soon?
I think Widmore's bedside scotch bottle is trying to tell us something. And Hurley's gloom and doom comment that we're already dead? Control the island, get back on the island, save humankind? I'm becoming more and more convinced that all of this intrigue might be about saving a small portion of humanity. That Aaron will be going back somehow. That our islanders are heroes or very soon will be.
Welcome to the board! I definitely think there's a lot to what you're saying, it makes a lot of sense! They've mentioned the bible so much in this show, and they've mentioned Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz a lot too - so if it's not an exact match to what you're saying, it's definitely on the right track at least! The whole undead dead thing is fascinating right now, and I hope we find out something more about it before the season ends!