This is my main theory so far! I tried to write it down as clear as I can because it can be very confusing. To make it more clear I will state every point as a bullet point and try to keep the sentences as short as possible.
Let us start at the very beginning of everything.
- The 'Landpost' was the first Dharma Station ever built. Scientists worked out a way and made a series of equations to create the pendulum which was able to track the position of where the island is going to be - in time.
- 'Hotspots' all over the world offer a way to the island.
- According to Daniel Faraday's theory of the 'spinning record', let us take the island as the record. The needle (present) of the player which is placed on the record to read the track (time) runs along the different tracks - in order. This side represents one dimension of space time.
- What Faraday did not mention was that there is a second needle, also placed on the record - but on the other side. (Maybe he did not know or could not explain it properly so he just didn't bother). This side of the record a represents another dimension - which is having its own time and space.
- So the same record (the island?) consists of 2 needles (representing - present), reading the two different sides (dimensions) in order from one track to another (as it runs along time passes by).
- The first flash we saw was in Season 2 as the numbers were not entered and the electromagnetic field imploded. This implosion (not explosion) had an effect on the energy kept under the orchid station where the wheel was and let the island jump the first time through time.
- At this point we remember that Penny had the chance to track the island for the first time after a while. Simultaneously her father - Charles Widmore - also had the chance to track the island's movement and set up the mission to find the island.
- From this point on the island was already moved before anybody knew that it actually happened.
---> Lets jump back a few steps to clarify some points <---
- Theory suggests that the energy 'stored' on the island affects the hotspots spread around the world. This would explain the concept of Desmond's mistake not typing in the numbers and pulling down the aircraft from the sky. The effect was that the electromagnetic field, released some of the energy, allowing it to open a new hotspot (which can be tracked by the landpost as we experienced in Season 5).
- To come back to the 'record' theory. The theory also suggests that this record which held two dimensions apart 'ripped' and allowed the aircraft to pass through the middle (as it is known from wormhole theories). This rip was the gate as we know it earlier explained in Season 5.
- Remember the Oceanic 815 only changed the side of the record, not the timeline. Both needles (presents) are still running simultaneously on both sides at the same speed.
- Time passes until the incidence in the Swan Station, as Locke tries to find out what happens if the numbers are not typed into the computer - which controls the electromagnetic field that keeps the energy trapped in.
- Now back to one of the upper points as the first flash happens. This flash did release a lot of energy (not only a little as it happened to open the gate for 815) which started the process of 'merging' the two dimensions (two sides of the record).
- What meant is, is that some people now had the ability to become 'time independent' as examples like Christian and Desmond can prove this. Nevertheless like Desmond, he cannot explain this phenomenon and can actively control it.
- Again time passes and we experience that only certain paths lead off the island (bearings which are calculated once for Michael to get off and once for the Freighter / Helicopter). These bearings may be presented as 'sideways' between the tracks which allow to skip tracks (get into a different timezone) or even change the side of the record (dimension).
- Desmond experienced one of the phenomenons that he could skip tracks (time change), and so did the doctor from the freighter (or better said his corpse which was washed up the island 2 days before his actual death).
- As finally Ben turned the wheel, again energy was released. Yet theory lets us suggest that the wheel is like a generator or amplifier which can generate or amplify the energy. Because there was no electromagnetic field anymore (Swan Station did not exist anymore), even more energy was released and made the record's needle jump (only one side - the side the Losties are on).
- Again this matches up with Faraday's theory that the record skips tracks (skips time).
- The concentrated energy opened another gate (hotspot) which through Ben to another part of the world and simultaneously on the other side of the record (every time someone / something passes through a hotspot / gate they change the side of the record).
- Unfortunately I have not come to a conclusion why only Locke could stop the record from skipping tracks.
- The remaining ones on the island therefore skipped time and jumped back to the past and end up at 1977. The Oceanic 6 and later including Ben and Locke are now on the other side of the record and do not experience the time jumps because on there side the needle follows the track of time as it should be.
- As the Oceanic 6 including Ben and Locke fly with flight 316 and cross the hotspot, they change the side of the record again. But what happens is that not all entered the other side correctly and are thrown back to the original side.
- At the same location (the record = the island) the two needles now have different position.
- As Sun and Frank go back to the main island after crash 316 they experience the whispers which we know from every single Season.
- Those whispers let us suggest that the two sides of the record are more or less in a way connected which lets certain energy pass through the middle (as the hotspots can allow for matter).
- People like Christian have the ability to change the sides whenever the want to (independent energy), as stated earlier.
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I will stop here for now and would really really like to know what you think of this theory.
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Just a small clarification and addition to my post!
- Clarification: This is PURE theory of mine. So please remember that many points are not confirmed.
- Addition: Take the record as a really huge record which has tracks of billions of years. There is one starting point where the needle is put down and the record starts playing (beginning of the universe / big bang) and an end. (ending of the universe / big crush). And after this - everything starts all over again (cant say for sure that it will be the same). So therefore the future has been already written (a theory suggests - sorry cant remember how the name was - that if you could predict every movement of every single particle in the universe, you would be able to tell what happens in future). This means it does not matter what the Losties do on either side of the track, they will end up with the same result - because it has been already WRITTEN.
This is my main theory so far! I tried to write it down as clear as I can because it can be very confusing. To make it more clear I will state every point as a bullet point and try to keep the sentences as short as possible.
Let us start at the very beginning of everything.
- The 'Landpost' was the first Dharma Station ever built. Scientists worked out a way and made a series of equations to create the pendulum which was able to track the position of where the island is going to be - in time.
- 'Hotspots' all over the world offer a way to the island.
- According to Daniel Faraday's theory of the 'spinning record', let us take the island as the record. The needle (present) of the player which is placed on the record to read the track (time) runs along the different tracks - in order. This side represents one dimension of space time.
- What Faraday did not mention was that there is a second needle, also placed on the record - but on the other side. (Maybe he did not know or could not explain it properly so he just didn't bother). This side of the record a represents another dimension - which is having its own time and space.
- So the same record (the island?) consists of 2 needles (representing - present), reading the two different sides (dimensions) in order from one track to another (as it runs along time passes by).
- The first flash we saw was in Season 2 as the numbers were not entered and the electromagnetic field imploded. This implosion (not explosion) had an effect on the energy kept under the orchid station where the wheel was and let the island jump the first time through time.
- At this point we remember that Penny had the chance to track the island for the first time after a while. Simultaneously her father - Charles Widmore - also had the chance to track the island's movement and set up the mission to find the island.
- From this point on the island was already moved before anybody knew that it actually happened.
---> Lets jump back a few steps to clarify some points <---
- Theory suggests that the energy 'stored' on the island affects the hotspots spread around the world. This would explain the concept of Desmond's mistake not typing in the numbers and pulling down the aircraft from the sky. The effect was that the electromagnetic field, released some of the energy, allowing it to open a new hotspot (which can be tracked by the landpost as we experienced in Season 5).
- To come back to the 'record' theory. The theory also suggests that this record which held two dimensions apart 'ripped' and allowed the aircraft to pass through the middle (as it is known from wormhole theories). This rip was the gate as we know it earlier explained in Season 5.
- Remember the Oceanic 815 only changed the side of the record, not the timeline. Both needles (presents) are still running simultaneously on both sides at the same speed.
- Time passes until the incidence in the Swan Station, as Locke tries to find out what happens if the numbers are not typed into the computer - which controls the electromagnetic field that keeps the energy trapped in.
- Now back to one of the upper points as the first flash happens. This flash did release a lot of energy (not only a little as it happened to open the gate for 815) which started the process of 'merging' the two dimensions (two sides of the record).
- What meant is, is that some people now had the ability to become 'time independent' as examples like Christian and Desmond can prove this. Nevertheless like Desmond, he cannot explain this phenomenon and can actively control it.
- Again time passes and we experience that only certain paths lead off the island (bearings which are calculated once for Michael to get off and once for the Freighter / Helicopter). These bearings may be presented as 'sideways' between the tracks which allow to skip tracks (get into a different timezone) or even change the side of the record (dimension).
- Desmond experienced one of the phenomenons that he could skip tracks (time change), and so did the doctor from the freighter (or better said his corpse which was washed up the island 2 days before his actual death).
- As finally Ben turned the wheel, again energy was released. Yet theory lets us suggest that the wheel is like a generator or amplifier which can generate or amplify the energy. Because there was no electromagnetic field anymore (Swan Station did not exist anymore), even more energy was released and made the record's needle jump (only one side - the side the Losties are on).
- Again this matches up with Faraday's theory that the record skips tracks (skips time).
- The concentrated energy opened another gate (hotspot) which through Ben to another part of the world and simultaneously on the other side of the record (every time someone / something passes through a hotspot / gate they change the side of the record).
- Unfortunately I have not come to a conclusion why only Locke could stop the record from skipping tracks.
- The remaining ones on the island therefore skipped time and jumped back to the past and end up at 1977. The Oceanic 6 and later including Ben and Locke are now on the other side of the record and do not experience the time jumps because on there side the needle follows the track of time as it should be.
- As the Oceanic 6 including Ben and Locke fly with flight 316 and cross the hotspot, they change the side of the record again. But what happens is that not all entered the other side correctly and are thrown back to the original side.
- At the same location (the record = the island) the two needles now have different position.
- As Sun and Frank go back to the main island after crash 316 they experience the whispers which we know from every single Season.
- Those whispers let us suggest that the two sides of the record are more or less in a way connected which lets certain energy pass through the middle (as the hotspots can allow for matter).
- People like Christian have the ability to change the sides whenever the want to (independent energy), as stated earlier.
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I will stop here for now and would really really like to know what you think of this theory.
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Interesting theory, the record is read from 2 sides. So you're saying sawyer, Jack and co in '77 are on (lets say for reference sakes) the bottom of the record, and Ben, Locke, Sun and the rest of 316 are on the top? So now Sun is trying to figure out how to get to the bottom and the rest of them on the bottom are all trying to get to the top?
This, if i read, correctly is what you are proposing.
Also now Christian is independent as we have seen him pop up in whatever time he pleases (since he has so far managed to show up in 2005, 2008, and whatever time it was when that statue was intact) Desmond may have similar power but has not quite learned to control it. Right?
There are four characters that I want to know how you think they fit into this theory:
Locke (he's resurrected like christian)
Claire (she was last seen hanging out with Christian)
Walt (he seemed to pop up where necessary like Christian)
Richard (the guy sometimes pops up in strange places, but doesnt seem to have that omnipresence like Christian, but also never seems to age)
Interesting theory, the record is read from 2 sides. So you're saying sawyer, Jack and co in '77 are on (lets say for reference sakes) the bottom of the record, and Ben, Locke, Sun and the rest of 316 are on the top? So now Sun is trying to figure out how to get to the bottom and the rest of them on the bottom are all trying to get to the top?
This, if i read, correctly is what you are proposing.
Also now Christian is independent as we have seen him pop up in whatever time he pleases (since he has so far managed to show up in 2005, 2008, and whatever time it was when that statue was intact) Desmond may have similar power but has not quite learned to control it. Right?
There are four characters that I want to know how you think they fit into this theory:
Locke (he's resurrected like christian)
Claire (she was last seen hanging out with Christian)
Walt (he seemed to pop up where necessary like Christian)
Richard (the guy sometimes pops up in strange places, but doesnt seem to have that omnipresence like Christian, but also never seems to age)
Thank you for the nice response
Yes, your first point is that what I am stating in my theory. Also that with Christian and Desmond as you understood it is correct.
Now to the 4 characters!
- Locke may have also the gift of being more or less independent to time, or better said he is linked to both sides. This may be hard to explain because I would have to show you a model of how everything is placed. Maybe I will make a video soon to explain better . So even though Locke is dead on one side of the record he is still alive on the other - because of the linkage and the return to the island he was 'resurrected' by the time difference.
- Claire and even other people like Eko's brother are weired phenomenons which I would explain like this (maybe I will rethink this one). As I stated, according to my theory it is possible for some energy and even matter to change the sides freely. This does not necessarily mean that this energy / matter has to be from the same time from one side as it appears on the other. Claire may have got the same characteristics as Christian already got earlier and is now independent (linkage to Christian?!) whereas Eko's bother may have been a leaking of energy from one side to the other.
- Walt was simply an imagination of some people (like you get when you are under stress or dehydrated). I don't think Walt has anything to do with my theory at all because we can see him later on when he is older in New York.
- Unfortunately you got me with Richard :P. He is truly a tricky character in LOST. I once had a theory of 'the living, the dead - the undead and the reborn', where I placed Richard as one of the undead of the island. Nevertheless, now I think this is irrelevant to the things which are going on now.
I was just thinking about this earlier today, but more specifically a couple things Ms. Hawkings said- First in season 2?, when Desmond meets her she says that you cant change destiny and that if you try, fate will just course correct itself. Then in this season when Sun, Jack, Ben and Desmond show up at the Lamppost, Ms. Hawkings tells Ben that he has 90? hours to get everyone back to the island or something bad will happen- starting first on the island and then affecting the rest of the world. I was thinking that pershaps the oceanic 6-Jack, Kate, and Hurley along with Sawyer, Jin and Juliet end up in 1977 for a reason- not to change the past but to realign the fabric of time. I think that sometime between 1977 and 2005 when the flight 815 crashed on the island, something happened on the island that threw reality out of whack. So Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Jin, Sun, Locke and Hurley are caught in a time loop. They will forever be repeating the cycle unless they fix something in the past (1977 or so), if they dont they will continue to be in this rut like a record when it gets stuck and keeps repeating the same part of a song. If they don't fix what is wrong, they will just be born, live the same lives, crash on the island in flight 815, go back in time to 1977, grow old and die over and over and over again.
This is my main theory so far! I tried to write it down as clear as I can because it can be very confusing. To make it more clear I will state every point as a bullet point and try to keep the sentences as short as possible.
Let us start at the very beginning of everything.
- The 'Landpost' was the first Dharma Station ever built. Scientists worked out a way and made a series of equations to create the pendulum which was able to track the position of where the island is going to be - in time.
- 'Hotspots' all over the world offer a way to the island.
- According to Daniel Faraday's theory of the 'spinning record', let us take the island as the record. The needle (present) of the player which is placed on the record to read the track (time) runs along the different tracks - in order. This side represents one dimension of space time.
- What Faraday did not mention was that there is a second needle, also placed on the record - but on the other side. (Maybe he did not know or could not explain it properly so he just didn't bother). This side of the record a represents another dimension - which is having its own time and space.
- So the same record (the island?) consists of 2 needles (representing - present), reading the two different sides (dimensions) in order from one track to another (as it runs along time passes by).
- The first flash we saw was in Season 2 as the numbers were not entered and the electromagnetic field imploded. This implosion (not explosion) had an effect on the energy kept under the orchid station where the wheel was and let the island jump the first time through time.
- At this point we remember that Penny had the chance to track the island for the first time after a while. Simultaneously her father - Charles Widmore - also had the chance to track the island's movement and set up the mission to find the island.
- From this point on the island was already moved before anybody knew that it actually happened.
---> Lets jump back a few steps to clarify some points <---
- Theory suggests that the energy 'stored' on the island affects the hotspots spread around the world. This would explain the concept of Desmond's mistake not typing in the numbers and pulling down the aircraft from the sky. The effect was that the electromagnetic field, released some of the energy, allowing it to open a new hotspot (which can be tracked by the landpost as we experienced in Season 5).
- To come back to the 'record' theory. The theory also suggests that this record which held two dimensions apart 'ripped' and allowed the aircraft to pass through the middle (as it is known from wormhole theories). This rip was the gate as we know it earlier explained in Season 5.
- Remember the Oceanic 815 only changed the side of the record, not the timeline. Both needles (presents) are still running simultaneously on both sides at the same speed.
- Time passes until the incidence in the Swan Station, as Locke tries to find out what happens if the numbers are not typed into the computer - which controls the electromagnetic field that keeps the energy trapped in.
- Now back to one of the upper points as the first flash happens. This flash did release a lot of energy (not only a little as it happened to open the gate for 815) which started the process of 'merging' the two dimensions (two sides of the record).
- What meant is, is that some people now had the ability to become 'time independent' as examples like Christian and Desmond can prove this. Nevertheless like Desmond, he cannot explain this phenomenon and can actively control it.
- Again time passes and we experience that only certain paths lead off the island (bearings which are calculated once for Michael to get off and once for the Freighter / Helicopter). These bearings may be presented as 'sideways' between the tracks which allow to skip tracks (get into a different timezone) or even change the side of the record (dimension).
- Desmond experienced one of the phenomenons that he could skip tracks (time change), and so did the doctor from the freighter (or better said his corpse which was washed up the island 2 days before his actual death).
- As finally Ben turned the wheel, again energy was released. Yet theory lets us suggest that the wheel is like a generator or amplifier which can generate or amplify the energy. Because there was no electromagnetic field anymore (Swan Station did not exist anymore), even more energy was released and made the record's needle jump (only one side - the side the Losties are on).
- Again this matches up with Faraday's theory that the record skips tracks (skips time).
- The concentrated energy opened another gate (hotspot) which through Ben to another part of the world and simultaneously on the other side of the record (every time someone / something passes through a hotspot / gate they change the side of the record).
- Unfortunately I have not come to a conclusion why only Locke could stop the record from skipping tracks.
- The remaining ones on the island therefore skipped time and jumped back to the past and end up at 1977. The Oceanic 6 and later including Ben and Locke are now on the other side of the record and do not experience the time jumps because on there side the needle follows the track of time as it should be.
- As the Oceanic 6 including Ben and Locke fly with flight 316 and cross the hotspot, they change the side of the record again. But what happens is that not all entered the other side correctly and are thrown back to the original side.
- At the same location (the record = the island) the two needles now have different position.
- As Sun and Frank go back to the main island after crash 316 they experience the whispers which we know from every single Season.
- Those whispers let us suggest that the two sides of the record are more or less in a way connected which lets certain energy pass through the middle (as the hotspots can allow for matter).
- People like Christian have the ability to change the sides whenever the want to (independent energy), as stated earlier.
----
I will stop here for now and would really really like to know what you think of this theory.
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I like it. I have to think about it a bit more, but I like it.
The 'Record' theory + Timeline
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